Search

Notices

July A320 Rotations

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 06-08-2026 | 10:44 AM
  #31  
Roll’n Thunder
Community Influencer
15 Years
On Reserve
Gets Weekends Off
 
Joined: Oct 2009
Posts: 5,219
Likes: 667
From: Pilot
Default

Originally Posted by CX500T
same. Running 12-1400 pay for 2-300 block.
Last year I had more hours of pay than hours TAFB…
Reply
Old 06-08-2026 | 10:53 AM
  #32  
.
 
Joined: Nov 2017
Posts: 3,581
Likes: 756
Default

Originally Posted by tennisguru
Last year I had more hours of pay than hours TAFB…
I think I was within 100 hours either way.
Reply
Old 06-08-2026 | 11:02 AM
  #33  
Moderator
 
Joined: Jul 2006
Posts: 7,564
Likes: 556
Default

Originally Posted by tennisguru
At least in my case, he has failed miserably these last few years…

Lol same, although it's much easier to do on the 717.
Reply
Old 06-08-2026 | 12:07 PM
  #34  
On Reserve
 
Joined: Jan 2020
Posts: 45
Likes: 0
Default

Originally Posted by CX500T
same. Running 12-1400 pay for 2-300 block.
What fleet? Impressive.
Reply
Old 06-08-2026 | 12:29 PM
  #35  
.
 
Joined: Nov 2017
Posts: 3,581
Likes: 756
Default

Originally Posted by Nightly
What fleet? Impressive.
NYC7ERA

Copy/Paste from 2025 Salary Survey thread

Year 8 pay (one week on 7)
$429,700 Flight Pay, which includes all reroute, premium, soft etc
$42,400 Profit Sharing
$472,100 in actual pay before taxes/insurance/etc
$80,300 in company contributions to 401k and MBCBP (gross x 17%)
$1700 in random stuff (shared rewards, grievance settlements, etc)
$4400 in Per Diem

$558,400 total

294:43 block for the year
1284:24 TAFB all year
$1,457 per block hour not counting PS or 401k
$1,894 per block hour counting PS/401k/PerDiem/Random Stuff
$335 per hour TAFB not counting PS/401k/PD/Random
$435 per hour TAFB counting PS/401/PD/Random


$45,300 in Green Slip/IA pay (granted 12k won't pay out until 2026)
$13,500 in Short Call Credit (36 unused SCs)
$23,000 in Reroute Pay
Didn't add up but probably $10k in EDP/SIT/CARVE pay over the year.

RES 9 months, REG 3.
Out 1 month on OJI, out just under 2 months when our insurance yanked me around for a surgery I needed (could have been only 2 weeks out, but hey UMR gotta "save" DL money)
One REG month was JAN to burn PB days from 2024
AUG got forced into a line because I needed a specific weekend off but parlayed an illegal RR while on a GS plus RR on every trip into a $51k with 30 hours flown
Bid a line for OCT and was out sick for all of it.


8GS/IA all year.
Reply
Old 06-08-2026 | 12:36 PM
  #36  
Line Holder
 
Joined: Mar 2022
Posts: 328
Likes: 236
Default

Originally Posted by dmhpilot
Straight from the Flops divisional goals 2026: “Implement initiatives that help improve our Block to Pay target” released in February.

Is anyone really surprised they’ve cranked up the optimizer going into contract negotiations and with this as one of the Flops goals for the year?
How much pay can you save cranking up the optimizer above current levels? At most, 30-60 minutes credit per day? Especially if you offset the resulting cost of zero-flexibility, more reroutes, timing-out, etc.

If that is their reason behind cranking up the optimizer, it's hilarious, because like a handful of posts above me, I've hit several 200-300 credit hour months in the last year due to the outrageous amounts of scheduling fires, illegal 23k, reroutes, EDP, premium, etc. I'm on track to pass 2,000 hours credit by the end of the year at this rate. But no surprise they are focusing on fixing the completely wrong thing. Our next major (predictable) weather event is going to be even more interesting! Prediction: they will not be adequately prepared, after passing up the chance to fix the contract at a good price. Can't wait.
Reply
Old 06-08-2026 | 12:59 PM
  #37  
DWC CAP10 USAF's Avatar
Gets Weekends Off
Veteran: Air Force
Liked
Gets Weekends Off
 
Joined: Apr 2016
Posts: 4,056
Likes: 226
From: Looking left
Default

Originally Posted by immolated
How much pay can you save cranking up the optimizer above current levels? At most, 30-60 minutes credit per day? Especially if you offset the resulting cost of zero-flexibility, more reroutes, timing-out, etc.

If that is their reason behind cranking up the optimizer, it's hilarious, because like a handful of posts above me, I've hit several 200-300 credit hour months in the last year due to the outrageous amounts of scheduling fires, illegal 23k, reroutes, EDP, premium, etc. I'm on track to pass 2,000 hours credit by the end of the year at this rate. But no surprise they are focusing on fixing the completely wrong thing. Our next major (predictable) weather event is going to be even more interesting! Prediction: they will not be adequately prepared, after passing up the chance to fix the contract at a good price. Can't wait.
According to my RCC contact, about a month or so ago they (company) reduced credit month-over-month by almost 10% in a single category's bid packages. This was back in the March-April timeframe.
Reply
Old 06-08-2026 | 01:48 PM
  #38  
Gunfighter's Avatar
Gets Weekends Off
1M Airline Miles
On Reserve
50 Countries Visited
 
Joined: Apr 2007
Posts: 5,672
Likes: 701
Default

Originally Posted by DWC CAP10 USAF
According to my RCC contact, about a month or so ago they (company) reduced credit month-over-month by almost 10% in a single category's bid packages. This was back in the March-April timeframe.
DL increased credit in 2018 (?) and we ran 9 months without a cancellation. It's amazing what a little operational buffer can do.
Reply
Old 06-08-2026 | 02:52 PM
  #39  
FangsF15's Avatar
Moderator
 
Joined: Sep 2011
Posts: 8,419
Likes: 1,469
Default

Originally Posted by Gunfighter
DL increased credit in 2018 (?) and we ran 9 months without a cancellation. It's amazing what a little operational buffer can do.
It’s like they have to relearn these lessons all over again. ALPA tries to help them, but they rebuff the help because it’s anathema to them. So frustrating to watch happen again and again.
Reply
Old 06-08-2026 | 03:17 PM
  #40  
DWC CAP10 USAF's Avatar
Gets Weekends Off
Veteran: Air Force
Liked
Gets Weekends Off
 
Joined: Apr 2016
Posts: 4,056
Likes: 226
From: Looking left
Default

Originally Posted by Gunfighter
DL increased credit in 2018 (?) and we ran 9 months without a cancellation. It's amazing what a little operational buffer can do.
I believe the difference is back in 2018, busting out the TLV wasn't an issue so the company didn't care about pilots being less efficient.

But now, TLV pressure is real....the company wants some category ALV's to be higher, but they can only get them so high without running out of TLV cap in the very near future, so at this very moment, they need every pilot they do have in the category to be as efficient as possible, hence rotations with less and less credit.

They need those pilots moving widgets in the system, not sitting around getting paid not to be productive.
Reply
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
Seeburg220
Technical
3
09-01-2007 01:34 PM
Gman
Major
34
04-12-2007 08:43 PM
Buzzard
Cargo
13
02-05-2007 06:22 AM
edik
Major
8
03-03-2006 06:59 AM
Flea Bite
Major
1
08-26-2005 08:59 AM

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On



Your Privacy Choices