July A320 Rotations
06-08-2026 | 03:36 PM
#41
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Cool, now ask what the end-of-month credit ended up being for those same months. Highly doubt it's still 10% more efficient.
06-08-2026 | 04:55 PM
#42
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Just when I think they can't get any worse. I'm stunned at how bad the July trips are on ATL 320. And by bad I mean fatiguing, high duty day, short layovers, but mostly the lack of commutability. Pick 4 day trips for any given day. Start times after 10:30am, duty off before 10:30pm. 10 rotations on a given day, only *2* of them duty out before 10:00pm. That means in order to make the trip commutable on both ends, you have to have everything go right and better hope you're not delayed 20 minutes. Or you're spending the night in ATL. So many trips are 3-2-2-3. Layovers are 14:30, 12:15, 10:40. I'm so tired at work now I can't go do anything on a layover. That's not enough time to get food, exercise, anything. Just buzz like a drone bee back and forth and collapse in your hotel room so you can wake up and do it all over the next day. The optimizer has wrung every ounce of joy out of this job. And for the newer guys it was NOT always like this.
I absolutely loathe coming to work now.
I absolutely loathe coming to work now.
06-08-2026 | 05:11 PM
#43
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Just when I think they can't get any worse. I'm stunned at how bad the July trips are on ATL 320. And by bad I mean fatiguing, high duty day, short layovers, but mostly the lack of commutability. Pick 4 day trips for any given day. Start times after 10:30am, duty off before 10:30pm. 10 rotations on a given day, only *2* of them duty out before 10:00pm. That means in order to make the trip commutable on both ends, you have to have everything go right and better hope you're not delayed 20 minutes. Or you're spending the night in ATL. So many trips are 3-2-2-3. Layovers are 14:30, 12:15, 10:40. I'm so tired at work now I can't go do anything on a layover. That's not enough time to get food, exercise, anything. Just buzz like a drone bee back and forth and collapse in your hotel room so you can wake up and do it all over the next day. The optimizer has wrung every ounce of joy out of this job. And for the newer guys it was NOT always like this.
I absolutely loathe coming to work now.
I absolutely loathe coming to work now.
06-08-2026 | 06:33 PM
#44
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From: Looking left
06-08-2026 | 06:53 PM
#46
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The actual credit is really irrelevant from a bid package perspective.
Company is running out of TLV cap space, so they run the ALV as high as they can and extract as much *scheduled* flying out of each pilot.
But if the month falls apart because of no slop (credit), that doesn’t change the fact that the TLV is based on ALV, not the actual LV’s at the end of the month.
Company is running out of TLV cap space, so they run the ALV as high as they can and extract as much *scheduled* flying out of each pilot.
But if the month falls apart because of no slop (credit), that doesn’t change the fact that the TLV is based on ALV, not the actual LV’s at the end of the month.
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Today | 03:36 PM
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