Maybe.

I frankly do not see that many major issues with this TA. There is a lot of good in it, and a few things (under 20) that I am less than happy with. Some I know I can live with, and some I am not sure. I have not decided how I am going to vote yes, and may not decide until June 30th. I want this thing heavily vetted from all sides.

It took me two months to get a nda I liked to even look at the books for a business I wanted. I will look at this language the same way. I want to look and see where we would possibly regret the language to the point of regretting the decision to ratify. Its just part of a due diligence process.

I do know that the pay and work rule changes are not to level my family would need to significantly change the way we live. The pay raise basically allows me to pay for day care for my third child so my wife can continue working. Its one concern, but not the only one. Many of my other concerns have been highlighted on here.

I also see many positives.

I love the change in premiums to the DPMP. I like the DH seat priority changes. I like the fact that there is an initial bump in pay and then a amendable date bump. Compounding is good. There is more, but in the end it comes down to risk reward over the gains and what I would like to see made better.

I am not yet convinced that if this is turned down it takes three years to get a deal. There is too much done and too much progress and upside for DAL in this agreement to walk away from for the company. As soon as I decide that the risk of not taking this deal outweighs the risks of sending it back. I will tell this board, but for now I am undecided in how I will vote.

Freudian slip?

No, not really. Not sure How I am going to vote, yes, or no. Sorry Iphone died.

acl,

Out of curiosity what are the DH seat priority changes?

One of the stupidest comment I've seen in a long time!!!

Signed,
A retired Military pilot

You know when it comes to the ratios, I could understand 1.0 or a 1.5 or 1.75 or 2.0... but 1.56?

That's where I worry that the ratio is designed to achieve DCI 450 x 1.56 = whatever that is, which is probably where we are now.

Outside of DCI 0, I'd rather keep the current 255/3:1 PWA language and add in a ratio based on the number of mainline aircraft seating 150 or less. Such that if a GTF ever makes its way down to the 50 seaters they'll hit a ratio limit that protects mainline aircraft from the very aircraft that threaten them the most.

1) An aisle seat in an exit row is not available at such time,.
28 2) A window seat in an exit row.
29 3) An aisle seat elsewhere in the coach cabin.
30 4) A window seat elsewhere in the coach cabin will be assigned. If.
31 5) A middle seat in an aisleexit row.
32 6) Any seat in the coach cabin

And your point is? We have already been offered what in some cases is a 40% premium over other operators of the same equipment. This was offered 7 months ahead of the amendable date which to me says management wants us onboard now.. not in 8-9 months or 2 years under traditionalsection 6 negotiations. That is key because it means that they want to do something NOW.. not in 6 - 8 months. SO they offered us leading industry payrates. Not what we all feel we want or deserve, but industry leading nonetheless. So you poo poo that and say if they are in such a hurry, they should offer more. OK... point taken, but it is very possible that the reason for that early offer will evaporate in a few months, and that offer will not be on the table the next time. UAL 747 captains make $190/hr with no new contract in the forseeable future. We turn this down, and management might not offer us that rate next time. Want to fight it out for more? OK.. I'll betcha management is more than willing to wait. But you're a tough guy....

That is a very small deal. I'll bet they have NOTHING to do with the reason for the accelerated contract. I'll even go further and say that if this goes down, that we will not see all 88 717s either. There will be no need because the DCI lift will be the same as it is before the TA. ANd for those of you that don;t like the additional 76 seaters, you had better read our current contract, because when those 717 DO show up and the fleet goes above 767.. and it will... those 70s can be converted to 76s.. management wins either way. SO control the number.. or don't.. it's up to you.

I prefer to control the number, and get a nice pay raise to boot, TO each his own I guess....

We have been offered industry leading pay.. and if we turn it down... I will bet that they would care about THAT..