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Old 09-11-2012 | 07:15 PM
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Originally Posted by Jesse
What we have now is very similar to what you described. I like that we can put our preference in for what SCs we would like if we have to have SC; and that if we want SC we can ask for it. As has been mentioned, what really takes away from these improvements is that the schedulers have taken a new tactic of using almost all available pilots for SC once they've assigned open time trips out for the next day. So even when you've done 3 SCs (in bucket 2 for the SC buckets), and have done enough flying to be in the higher RAW bucket than anyone else, and are senior to everyone else you can still expect to get assigned SC because you have a pulse. Just having one day of availability remaining doesn't necessarily mean you're going to escape the long line of SC pilots. What sucks even more, IMHO, is when you've maxed your SCs, and you're in the highest bucket, just finished 4 days of flying and because you can't be assigned SC they give you a trip with 13 hrs notice while a pilot with the same availability is assigned to sit his second SC, and has done less than half the flying you have and is considered untouchable because he's a SC asset for the following day. Crazy system. The schedulers, at least in ATL M88 B, have in effect, negated the benefits of the new reserve system by maxing out SCs. And going to 7 SCs will further undermine it.
Just remember that next time Crew Sked asks for a favor in that you go over 15 hours to get a flight out. I was suckered into it a few trips ago and will think really hard before I do it again.......especially in light of all of the SC BS going on now.
Old 09-11-2012 | 08:56 PM
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Originally Posted by shiznit
Anyone know how to tell if a 744 has been through the mod line and has the lie-flat seats yet?

Thanks.
65 or 68 first class seats (old "clam shell" seats) compared to 48 (or close to it) lay flat seats. Just early dv8 from NRT today . Had the lay flat, Fantastic! Dont worry about how many are in econ unless non reving.
Old 09-11-2012 | 09:24 PM
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Originally Posted by Jesse
What we have now is very similar to what you described. I like that we can put our preference in for what SCs we would like if we have to have SC; and that if we want SC we can ask for it. As has been mentioned, what really takes away from these improvements is that the schedulers have taken a new tactic of using almost all available pilots for SC once they've assigned open time trips out for the next day. So even when you've done 3 SCs (in bucket 2 for the SC buckets), and have done enough flying to be in the higher RAW bucket than anyone else, and are senior to everyone else you can still expect to get assigned SC because you have a pulse. Just having one day of availability remaining doesn't necessarily mean you're going to escape the long line of SC pilots. What sucks even more, IMHO, is when you've maxed your SCs, and you're in the highest bucket, just finished 4 days of flying and because you can't be assigned SC they give you a trip with 13 hrs notice while a pilot with the same availability is assigned to sit his second SC, and has done less than half the flying you have and is considered untouchable because he's a SC asset for the following day. Crazy system. The schedulers, at least in ATL M88 B, have in effect, negated the benefits of the new reserve system by maxing out SCs. And going to 7 SCs will further undermine it.



We can all thank our alpa reps for another job well done...
Old 09-11-2012 | 11:47 PM
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Originally Posted by Delta1067
Just remember that next time Crew Sked asks for a favor in that you go over 15 hours to get a flight out. I was suckered into it a few trips ago and will think really hard before I do it again.......especially in light of all of the SC BS going on now.
Yeah when they need something, its all about teamwork. When you are forced to fly the contract though, hey, a contract is a contract.

We keep falling for it though.

I agree that we need either a longer long call (especially between certain later evening hours) or at least a 1 flight commuter clause during that time. Heck even one of our largest regionals has that.
Old 09-12-2012 | 12:17 AM
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Originally Posted by gloopy
Yeah when they need something, its all about teamwork. When you are forced to fly the contract though, hey, a contract is a contract.

We keep falling for it though.

I agree that we need either a longer long call (especially between certain later evening hours) or at least a 1 flight commuter clause during that time. Heck even one of our largest regionals has that.
I'm all about helping the company out when I am able to, however:

I've had to cut the contract short before... we got upturned and then horribly delayed due to a mechanical (due to a fun nuance of my favorite plane, the 737).

"Sir, did you report not ready to fly to your contractual limit today?"

"2 questions- is that what I sign on to every time I report, and secondly, because it is contractual or even legal, does that make it safe?"

He started trying to derive logically that since the contract was negotiated with safety in mind that it followed that it was safe regardless. Needless to say, I won that one.
Old 09-12-2012 | 04:48 AM
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You know this picture?







Here's the one that scheduling has on their wall...

Old 09-12-2012 | 05:02 AM
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Originally Posted by forgot to bid
You know this picture?







Here's the one that scheduling has on their wall...

Haven't heard much out of that guy lately. Does he still work for DCI?
Old 09-12-2012 | 06:14 AM
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Originally Posted by RockyBoy
SC assignments in SLC on the 320 have been very predictable since the new system was implemented. Almost always 4 SC assignments and 95% of the time they go to those who have the most days of availability. Been getting 3-4 SC assignemnts per month through the summer and have only been called out on 1 the last 3 months.
Where do you sit seniority wise? The wife and I want back out west and this category is my first hope.
Old 09-12-2012 | 06:29 AM
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Originally Posted by cni187
Where do you sit seniority wise? The wife and I want back out west and this category is my first hope.
Well I'm sure you looked but as of the last AE the junior SLC320B is 11572 as a 3/17/2008 hire.
Old 09-12-2012 | 06:30 AM
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