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Old 11-08-2012 | 04:45 PM
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Originally Posted by LeineLodge
Who are we talking about here? SR? BB?

I didn't know either was being "backed"
BB is far too outspoken and does not drink from the ALPA Widget-Aid cooler in ATL. There was a very cordial campaign going on and all of a sudden, like someone flipped a switch (or edited his letters) SR starts mud slinging and sliming BB with some pretty disingenuous, artfully spun dirt.

Very, very out of character for him.
Old 11-08-2012 | 04:47 PM
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I musta spent a week doing all that math and not one remark?

Bottom line, the Carbon Tax will be a lot more than a slap on the wrist for the airlines. I'm guessing it would wipe out any gains made from the Trainer purchase, and then some?

From a CRJ900 standpoint, this will add roughly 92 bucks per operating hour.
I was arguing with a hippie one day about how worthless H2 was as fuel. Engeering problems aside, and the fact that the dumbasses you face every day driving would each be in command of a mini-Hindenburg, I was pointing out that you can't simply stick a pipe in the ground and up comes bubbling cyrogenic hydrogen. You have to PRODUCE it, and that means simply moving the carbon from lots of places to one big place (plus eating a bunch in the production/transfer process), unless you go nuke, and hippies aren't a big fan of fission, it turns out.

But I pull him aside, and wisper to him, like I'm divulging a huge trade secret. I tell him about a way to store hydrogen at non-cryogenic temperatures and pressures. Extremely compact, and pound for pound, equal to what we use now. You just take the hydrogen, and bond it to a carbon, and string them along like Christmas lights.

He was really bummed when I told him it was gasoline. Turns out it's a pretty dang good way to store hydrogen.

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Old 11-08-2012 | 05:05 PM
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We are going to start LGA-EYW service using a 737 Saturdays only, also upgauging JFK-MSY from a CR-9 to an A-319. New chief pilot for NYC as well.
Old 11-08-2012 | 05:15 PM
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Originally Posted by NuGuy
You just take the hydrogen, and bond it to a carbon, and string them along like Christmas lights.
I'm using that from now on. My hippie friends are going to be so pwned.
Old 11-08-2012 | 05:18 PM
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Originally Posted by forgot to bid
i was going to get to it... but we are number two so i gotta go...

jk

i haven't slept well in two days and am thinking that
Uh oh, you didn't have a NewK beer, did you?

You can't just drink that stuff on an empty stomach and then go posting on APC...
Old 11-08-2012 | 05:23 PM
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Originally Posted by Boomer
Ready for some bad news?

The amount of deadly, life-stealing carbon dioxide put out the tailpipe can be calculated from the amount of fuel you're burning.

From my recollection:

Jet-A (Hydrocarbons, Cs and Hs) + Oxygen ---> Water + Carbon Dioxide

Jet-A has different chemical compositions depending on the refining process, but for the most part you're looking at one part Carbon to two parts Hydrogen (plus some other stuff we don't want the EPA to know about... ssshhhhh...) But since one Carbon weighs as much as 6 Hydrogens, on a per-ton basis, 2,000 lbs of Jet-A will contain (roughly) 1500 lbs of Carbon and 500 lbs of Hydrogen.

Bad news is, one Carbon will hook up with two Oxygens, which means that 1500 lbs of Carbon will generate 5500 lbs of Carbon Dioxide.

Or in other words, at $20 per (metric) ton of CO2, Delta will be paying a Carbon Tax of $50 per (metric) ton of Jet-A, or 17 cents per gallon.

Bar can tell you how much that will cost Delta in a year.
Well, from the 10-K for 2011 Delta consumed 3,856,000,000 gallons of fuel.

That cost 11.7B dollars at a cost of $3.06 per gallon and represented 36% of our expenditures.

So another $0.17 per gallon would be $655M tax? What was our operating income for 2011? $1.975B? But net income of $854M? So look there, we can afford the tax.

If it increases 6% per year as per the article, that's a $8B contribution to a better tomorrow and a reduction in hurricanes over a ten year period.

So know you'd make $854M in profit every year from here on out. We don't score dynamically. If I do I'd have to guess how much is passed on to passengers and then what happens to demand and then of course capacity which effects or affects the fleet and the pilots and it's just too complicated.

So everything here is static because it works best.

So in year 1 the carbon tax would only take 77% of DALs profit made off shameless bag fees and gouging. By year 5 it takes more than 100%, but don't worry you've saved enough over the first five that you don't come out behind until the nine year point. And we'll stop figuring from there.

I could've worked in the CBO.

Remember, the goal is to end hurricanes. After that, end volcanoes.

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Old 11-08-2012 | 05:26 PM
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Originally Posted by NuGuy
I was arguing with a hippie one day about how worthless H2 was as fuel. Engeering problems aside, and the fact that the dumbasses you face every day driving would each be in command of a mini-Hindenburg, I was pointing out that you can't simply stick a pipe in the ground and up comes bubbling cyrogenic hydrogen. You have to PRODUCE it, and that means simply moving the carbon from lots of places to one big place (plus eating a bunch in the production/transfer process), unless you go nuke, and hippies aren't a big fan of fission, it turns out.

But I pull him aside, and wisper to him, like I'm divulging a huge trade secret. I tell him about a way to store hydrogen at non-cryogenic temperatures and pressures. Extremely compact, and pound for pound, equal to what we use now. You just take the hydrogen, and bond it to a carbon, and string them along like Christmas lights.

He was really bummed when I told him it was gasoline. Turns out it's a pretty dang good way to store hydrogen.

Nu
so you're saying don't send solar panels to NJ right now?
Old 11-08-2012 | 05:40 PM
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Originally Posted by forgot to bid

So another $0.17 per gallon would be $655M tax? What was our operating income for 2011? $1.975B? But net income of $854M? So look there, we can afford the tax.
Well, you know execs aren't going to give up their bonuses....and the way DALPA rolls over (er, negotiates), any extra expenses, taxes, losses, etc. are coming out of our future pay raises. DALPA big shots certainly won't play hardball and ruin their futures in management.

Sure, the company can afford it.

But we pilots can't.
Old 11-08-2012 | 05:41 PM
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Originally Posted by forgot to bid
Remember, end hurricanes.
nah, I better not...
Old 11-08-2012 | 07:07 PM
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Originally Posted by KC10 FATboy
This is probably a repost, but a good video of the Skywest pilot gone crazy and stealing an RJ with multiple views and video.

LiveLeak.com - Raw Footage: Skywest Jet Smashes Through Airport in St. George, Utah
Brian was a friend of mine, purchased my crashpad car from me when I was displaced to another domicile, and we were simulator partners twice at one of his previous regional airlines.

He leaves behind two young children, and a wife who will now have to make ends meet by herself. The Brian I knew was a good person, who had most recently found troubling times in his life. (Ever been a victim to life's ups & downs?) He needed help, and prior to someone reaching out to him, he ended the life of his ex-girlfriend and then took his own.

Anyway, not meant to sound like a lecture, just that there's always a side to the story the media doesn't seem to portray.

Fly safe,

GJ
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