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Old 02-06-2013 | 04:31 PM
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Not to worry. Frontier is coming to the rescue!!!!

CVG lands Frontier Airlines - Business Courier
Frontier owned by Republic which is paid by Delta Air Lines to fly routes. This competition thing is getting sticky. Republic is getting paid by Delta and then making money competing with Delta via Frontier Funny!

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Old 02-06-2013 | 04:34 PM
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Originally Posted by Denny Crane
Also, it sounds like guys are going to be sitting around for months not doing anything but waiting for 717 delivieries to come so they can get an OE. That right there is some incentive to bid it on an AE!! (MD's are trained in inverse order.) Of course they would have a freeze. You are correct, MD equals no freeze and AE equals freeze.

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Just seems to me they are pushing the summer off line pretty hard. I'm not sure that it will work out that way for more than a handful of people. Bait and switch?
Old 02-06-2013 | 04:36 PM
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Originally Posted by hockeypilot44
Most places offer a discount. You just have to buy/donate $10 to the chapel per year for the discount card. It gives you 10 percent off at most places. I always buy it because as a commuter who eats before and after trips, it pays for itself. I agree though, most airports give every employee a discount.
My Bad. Not based in ATL. Ok, then give me a bigger portion. I always liked Popeyes. The manager would throw-in an extra strip to the crewmembers' order. What happened to Popeyes??

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Old 02-06-2013 | 04:38 PM
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Originally Posted by contrails
DL service to ICN from NRT ends May 31. Evidently Northwest started Tokyo to Seoul in 1947.
Silly Goose! We are still doing the route. Operated by Skyteam KAL

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Old 02-06-2013 | 04:53 PM
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Originally Posted by forgot to bid
117 MD-88s + 65 MD-90s? Equals 182 jets right?

There are 1735 pilots right now on the 88/90 and they're not expecting to add more but shrink staffing on it.

That's 9.5 pilots per plane, not crews, pilots. 4.8 crews per plane. It's below the 15 pilots per 737, 11 per 320, 14 for the 9.

Why do they say we are overstaffed? I mean February, yes, but come summer?
I don't know. I was just going with the number crew resources said they were going to staff the 717 with: 7 crews an airplane. DOH!

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Old 02-06-2013 | 04:55 PM
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Originally Posted by Wilbur Wright
For MDs pilots now have the option of converting in seniority order.

Oops! I stand corrected!!

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Old 02-06-2013 | 04:58 PM
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Originally Posted by sailingfun
I believe closing the nine category in this bid may have been a error. I suspect it will close in a follow on bid. If a category is being closed there is no reason to take anything other then a MD.

Yes but it is closing in 15 months, how you bid it is also how you are taken off. AE's are processsed first then md's. Also if you know you want a certain plane and get it who cares about the seat lock. Also if you ae off you will be processed first which could put you in class in a few months, about a year earlier than being md off.....keeping the plane flying until May 2014. A seat lock would be half over by then and some may not want to go through the rough schedule possibilities of a dying plane. At least that is the way i generally understand it.
Old 02-06-2013 | 04:59 PM
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Originally Posted by The Cavalier
Just seems to me they are pushing the summer off line pretty hard. I'm not sure that it will work out that way for more than a handful of people. Bait and switch?
Possibly.......But their explanation about only being able to train so many crews a month, which is less than they need based on the aircraft delivery schedule. We'll have to see.

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Old 02-06-2013 | 04:59 PM
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Originally Posted by Denny Crane
I don't know. I was just going with the number crew resources said they were going to staff the 717 with: 7 crews an airplane. DOH!

Denny
it's interesting to me. I can see 7 crews per 717 to cover deliveries and then the ratio dropping later. Same with the 737 with its deliveries. So yeah, "the 717 means 14 pilots per plane... but only while we build the category."

I just have a sneaking suspicion the 320 is headed towards the 88's number. The 320 has gone from 6 crews to 5.6 crews and there talking about getting rid of more FOs.

What is SWA's ratio of pilots to planes? Let me go look... apc says 6,327 pilots and 565 speed demon 737s. That comes out to 5.59 crews per plane vs the 88's current 4.8.

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Old 02-06-2013 | 05:03 PM
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Originally Posted by The Cavalier
Just seems to me they are pushing the summer off line pretty hard. I'm not sure that it will work out that way for more than a handful of people. Bait and switch?
Bingo. Why people continuously fall for these things is beyond me.
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