Any "Latest & Greatest" about Delta?
02-10-2013, 06:38 AM
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FTB,
Did you have some questions about The Big Bang Theory sitcom? I think I missed them. I couldn't get past this........
Did you have some questions about The Big Bang Theory sitcom? I think I missed them. I couldn't get past this........
02-10-2013, 06:39 AM
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02-10-2013, 06:41 AM
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Originally Posted by forgot to bid
Pro truth or they'll be in a world of hurt.
but we already knew that there were productivity gains in this contract, EB isn't saying something from out of left field. He's just saying what we cheated, we paid for our own pay increases via fewer pilots, larger RJs and in another place they mentioned profit sharing cuts. I'll look up that quote when I get back to the computer.
but we already knew that there were productivity gains in this contract, EB isn't saying something from out of left field. He's just saying what we cheated, we paid for our own pay increases via fewer pilots, larger RJs and in another place they mentioned profit sharing cuts. I'll look up that quote when I get back to the computer.
Sorry, lots of cynical in the coffee this morning.
02-10-2013, 06:43 AM
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Originally Posted by Ferd149
Yup, got an entire generation of us through puberty. She was the complete package. Beautiful, a classic lady, never got rattled, could kick your a$$ and carried a gun.
Ok, I'll be back in a few minutes......gotta take care of 'something'
Ok, I'll be back in a few minutes......gotta take care of 'something'
02-10-2013, 06:45 AM
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Originally Posted by Carl Spackler
As I and many others stated before the TA vote, the TA was cost neutral to Delta. We didn't make that up, we were simply posting Richard and Ed's quotes to various financial media. So it's not a question of making sense to you or not, it's simply quoting our executive leadership.
Now, why was/is this an important question? It's important because people like alfaromeo and others within the MEC administration vehemently denied any characterization of the TA as cost neutral to Delta...despite executive leadership stating the exact opposite. The MEC administration felt they had to try to kill the cost neutral description or risk being thought of as management stooges by the membership. It was this vehement attack against the cost neutral description that is the concern. Is that what an MEC should be doing during the membership decision phase of a TA vote? Shouldn't an MEC just put out the TA and let us decide? And shouldn't an MEC let the words of our executive leadership speak for themselves?
Carl
Now, why was/is this an important question? It's important because people like alfaromeo and others within the MEC administration vehemently denied any characterization of the TA as cost neutral to Delta...despite executive leadership stating the exact opposite. The MEC administration felt they had to try to kill the cost neutral description or risk being thought of as management stooges by the membership. It was this vehement attack against the cost neutral description that is the concern. Is that what an MEC should be doing during the membership decision phase of a TA vote? Shouldn't an MEC just put out the TA and let us decide? And shouldn't an MEC let the words of our executive leadership speak for themselves?
Carl
If Delta finds a way to offset the value of our contract somewhere else in their business plan and is able to call it "cost-neutral" I say great! We should be constantly looking for opportunities to make that happen again in the future. If parking RJ's, upgauging lift for better economics/customer satisfaction, etc allows Ed to make those statements, then it's a win-win. Do you want/expect Ed to publicly kneel at the earnings call altar and confess his sin of being "bamboozled by those crafty pilots"? Would that make you guys "feel" better?
I personally don't care if Ed's comments satisfy my ego or not. I examined the deal and found it favorable on my own accord - we weren't sold anything. I know because I read everything and came to an objective conclusion instead of launching emotional rocks from the back of the room. PLEASE for the good of the group stop spewing Angry Pilots Association rhetoric (need I remind of the abortion scare or would you rather I pull the "fire alarm"? GMAFB) - it's nothing but divisive. Of course on 2nd thought that IS your primary goal here
02-10-2013, 06:49 AM
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See if I can get this to work
Thankyou Mrs Peel
Thankyou Mrs Peel
Last edited by Ferd149; 02-10-2013 at 07:03 AM. Reason: Finally!!
02-10-2013, 06:57 AM
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Originally Posted by Ferd149
See if I can get this to work
Thankyou Mrs Peel
<iframe width="560" height="315" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/rIM1Q3Hwal8" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>
Thankyou Mrs Peel
<iframe width="560" height="315" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/rIM1Q3Hwal8" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>
Ferd,
Check out this. It should help you with your YouTube post.
http://www.airlinepilotforums.com/yo...be-videos.html
02-10-2013, 06:59 AM
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Finally..........see above
odd that the url doesn't paste the way you copy it. I'm sure I wasn't copying from the correct spot.
odd that the url doesn't paste the way you copy it. I'm sure I wasn't copying from the correct spot.
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02-10-2013, 07:05 AM
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Originally Posted by Carl Spackler
I'm not sure. But I do think that all similar questions should be accompanied by this picture.
Carl
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