Any "Latest & Greatest" about Delta?
02-09-2013, 10:53 PM
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Originally Posted by scambo1
it used to pay much more to do it 1.5 or 2x plus payback days rather than 1x plus payback days.
02-09-2013, 11:05 PM
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Originally Posted by capncrunch
Do you feel like dollar for dollar we as pilots got a good deal out of that trade? We got a small payback for what amounts to a huge savings to the company. ALPA gave that away, we should have gotten more. Pathetic.
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02-09-2013, 11:09 PM
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Originally Posted by hockeypilot44
I don't know if this is true. I heard rolling thunder happened because the company changed what green slips were worth to line holders, but did not change what they were worth to reserves. This caused the line holders to stop green slipping. The by-product was that almost all green slips went to the reserves which lead to rolling thunder. This won't happen now as line holders get most of the green slips due to seniority. It's hard to get more than one green slip these days as a junior pilot.
02-10-2013, 12:23 AM
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Originally Posted by forgot to bid
Can I watch episodes on netflix?
Call a sucka back... but only after 1400. I'm on baby dooty til 0600. Fatty is approaching 10 pounds, and I've prevented him painting the couch with formula for 6 nights in a row. Can't say the same for Mrs. 80!!
Granted, he showed everything he had swallowed on his 1 month check all over my arm, the wall, and well...yeah. I'm glad I chose to wear pants in public.
02-10-2013, 03:34 AM
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Originally Posted by forgot to bid
Can I watch episodes on netflix?
02-10-2013, 04:52 AM
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Originally Posted by Falcon7
That sums it up.
I guess I don't understand all the hand wringing by some here. All this cost neutral stuff makes no sense. I'm an hourly employee, I'm making more per hour and it appears more work is coming to the mainline vs. the DCI pilots. How is that a bad thing?
I guess I don't understand all the hand wringing by some here. All this cost neutral stuff makes no sense. I'm an hourly employee, I'm making more per hour and it appears more work is coming to the mainline vs. the DCI pilots. How is that a bad thing?
I'd rather have more people than pay per hour since I can make up the difference moving to higher paying categories which would actually have vacancies.
02-10-2013, 05:06 AM
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Originally Posted by Jay5150
I think that when green slips to line holders dropped to 1.5 it certainly affected it. But the biggest drivers, by far, of the thunder are:
1. Being short in a category (shorter the better)
2. Getting the payback days.
The summer of '07 and to a little lesser extent '08 was unbelievable. (ER in NYC). I didn't really try that hard as a commuter and also because I didn't fully realize how rare the situation was. Still, my best month was 146 credit for 76 block and ended the year with an extra 23 days vacation for the next year. I heard a rumor of an FO who did back-to-back 200 hour credit months.
1. Being short in a category (shorter the better)
2. Getting the payback days.
The summer of '07 and to a little lesser extent '08 was unbelievable. (ER in NYC). I didn't really try that hard as a commuter and also because I didn't fully realize how rare the situation was. Still, my best month was 146 credit for 76 block and ended the year with an extra 23 days vacation for the next year. I heard a rumor of an FO who did back-to-back 200 hour credit months.
Originally Posted by 80ktsClamp
That's the truth.
I made almost 10,000 less dollars in 2012 than I did in 2011! Although a major part of that is getting pushed back to no chance of holding a line on fifi.
Sigh...What a fall... occasional lineholder on the 767 in ATL in 08/09 to dangling on the bottom of the 320 in 2013. +717!
I made almost 10,000 less dollars in 2012 than I did in 2011! Although a major part of that is getting pushed back to no chance of holding a line on fifi.
Sigh...What a fall... occasional lineholder on the 767 in ATL in 08/09 to dangling on the bottom of the 320 in 2013. +717!
Originally Posted by hammer189
Rolling thunder was not "given away", it simply stopped working because we are overstaffed. In the summer months when (if) we are short it will work again.
Never mind. Pointing out what happened concomittant with Delta all of sudden going from under, to way over, staffed makes some people irrational.
Figured it would take 5 years to recover. We will see how this summer looks.
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02-10-2013, 05:06 AM
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Originally Posted by Jinks
Ah, Mrs. Peel. I wonder if Mr. Steed ever got some of that?
Jinks
Jinks
Originally Posted by Ferd149
Ahhhhhhhhh you young whipper snappers get off my lawn. While cute, a real woman ...............well never mind
Ok, only Scambo and I probably know who she is anyway
Ok, only Scambo and I probably know who she is anyway
That was one of my favorite TV shows.
She doesn't know it. But, I've had sex with her before.
Many times.
02-10-2013, 05:33 AM
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Originally Posted by scambo1
I agree the scam ship has largely sailed.
Awhile back, when rolling thunder was discovered as a little scam, I was actually schooled about it early on, by one of the greatest and recently retired schedulers during my tenure. I think it took about 3-4 months of doing it before DALPA gave it back...yes, gave. So you ask, what am I willing to give up...Nothing. What is my collective bargaining agent willing to give up? Seemingly everything that makes unionization worth paying for.
Awhile back, when rolling thunder was discovered as a little scam, I was actually schooled about it early on, by one of the greatest and recently retired schedulers during my tenure. I think it took about 3-4 months of doing it before DALPA gave it back...yes, gave. So you ask, what am I willing to give up...Nothing. What is my collective bargaining agent willing to give up? Seemingly everything that makes unionization worth paying for.
02-10-2013, 05:34 AM
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Originally Posted by dalad
For all you boob lovers-side, under and over, it's Carnival time in Rio.
Since women started shaving the little guys go no where to live.
It is the first mass extinction due to clear cutting a Brazilian forest that I've ever seen scientists say "yeah, well that was good."
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