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Old 02-10-2013 | 01:58 PM
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The reason it only benefits a few, is that there are only a few benefits left. In other words, there is just not that much premium flying leftover, because everyone is taking the flying as a matter of routine. Don't hate the number one guy because he still has scraps left, and the number two guy has nothing left. The truth is the number two guy and the number three guy and the number for guy, have all tripped over themselves to white slip the flying. The green slip system is actually designed to benefit everybody. Everyone gets a shot. There's just nothing to take a shot at anymore.
Old 02-10-2013 | 02:02 PM
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I am truly amazed at how many guys I fly with whiteslip to the limit every single month. It shows me we are still not making enough money.
Old 02-10-2013 | 02:02 PM
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Originally Posted by Sink r8
The reason it only benefits a few, is that there are only a few benefits left. In other words, there is just not that much premium flying leftover, because everyone is taking the flying as a matter of routine. Don't hate the number one guy because he still has scraps left, and the number two guy has nothing left. The truth is the number two guy and the number three guy and the number for guy, have all tripped over themselves to white slip the flying. The green slip system is actually designed to benefit everybody. Everyone gets a shot. There's just nothing to take a shot at anymore.
All flying over 85 should pay at 1.5, with true OT paying x 2, period. If they are short, they should still have greenslips, but as I posted above anything flown over 85 should pay time and a half.
Old 02-10-2013 | 02:09 PM
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Originally Posted by hockeypilot44
I am truly amazed at how many guys I fly with whiteslip to the limit every single month. It shows me we are still not making enough money.
Or maybe it shows you that people are spending too much money?
Old 02-10-2013 | 02:12 PM
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I just don't see why we should be fighting over how to routinely pay for an amount of flying we shouldn't routinely cross. And if we cross it because the company badly needs it because they failed to staff up, they need to pay an adequate overage.

If you want to fly more, fly more. Don't ask for special treatment for it.
Old 02-10-2013 | 02:12 PM
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Originally Posted by hockeypilot44
I am truly amazed at how many guys I fly with whiteslip to the limit every single month. It shows me we are still not making enough money.
My guess is a large % of the ALV +15 crowd would pick up to the limit regardless of the rate.
Old 02-10-2013 | 02:13 PM
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Originally Posted by johnso29
Or maybe it shows you that people are spending too much money?
Well, when pilots are still making way less than they did 10 years ago... and everything costs way more than it did back then, well... people need more money.
Old 02-10-2013 | 02:14 PM
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Originally Posted by johnso29
Or maybe it shows you that people are spending too much money?
Depends on where you live. I honestly don't understand how FOs live in SoCal or NY, for example, without WS'ing their butts off. Probably much different in the Midwest.

By way of full disclosure, I do white slip when I need to. I have a military pension, though, which helps tremendously. I have never ever received a green slip in 5 years in LA. Thus, my angst.
Old 02-10-2013 | 02:17 PM
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Originally Posted by The Cavalier
My guess is a large % of the ALV +15 crowd would pick up to the limit regardless of the rate.
I don't agree. I think guys work as much as they have to, not just to work. If we were compensated like we used to be, there'd be very few guys white slipping. Still a fair amount of green slippers probably. I don't want to work if I don't have to.
Old 02-10-2013 | 02:17 PM
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Originally Posted by The Cavalier
My guess is a large % of the ALV +15 crowd would pick up to the limit regardless of the rate.
That's what I'm assuming as well.
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