Any "Latest & Greatest" about Delta?
10-08-2012, 07:58 PM
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Originally Posted by sailingfun
I would like to see your numbers. Per merger we had 800 pilots on just the 7er. Are you saying the M88' 73N and 777 had only 50 pilots total? We were a lot closer to 1500 premerger then 800.
In March 2008 the contractual staffing formula required 856 pilots for NYC. Actual staffing was 943.
I was off by 100. Sorry about the error.
10-08-2012, 08:14 PM
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Originally Posted by sailingfun
I would like to see your numbers. Per merger we had 800 pilots on just the 7er. Are you saying the M88' 73N and 777 had only 50 pilots total? We were a lot closer to 1500 premerger then 800.
Originally Posted by slowplay
Yes, my numbers were off.
In March 2008 the contractual staffing formula required 856 pilots for NYC. Actual staffing was 943.
I was off by 100. Sorry about the error.
In March 2008 the contractual staffing formula required 856 pilots for NYC. Actual staffing was 943.
I was off by 100. Sorry about the error.
I thought sailing and slow was the same guy. Next thing you know, alfa and pineapple guy will start having discussions. Go figure.
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10-09-2012, 12:53 AM
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Originally Posted by scambo1
If I really lost you, you are not a 777 Capt, because this is the topic of conversation in every crew brief.
10-09-2012, 02:20 AM
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Originally Posted by slowplay
Just remember that NYC has grown from about 850 pilots pre-merger to nearly 1500 pilots. Ask MEM, CVG, DTW, MSP and ATL if they think that's been "whacked" mercilessly...
I know, I know, you don't get to do NCE anymore, which isn't nice. But your base doesn't look to bad from a different perspective!
I know, I know, you don't get to do NCE anymore, which isn't nice. But your base doesn't look to bad from a different perspective!
And I haven't been to NCE in 4 years...
10-09-2012, 04:38 AM
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I flew with a guy who had someone on the jumpseat who knew someone who went to NCE on a WS last year. Over Thanksgiving, I think it was.
10-09-2012, 04:56 AM
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Not the same guy. Just get the same talking points/marching orders from higher up
Originally Posted by newKnow
Um...what?
I thought sailing and slow was the same guy. Next thing you know, alfa and pineapple guy will start having discussions. Go figure.
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I thought sailing and slow was the same guy. Next thing you know, alfa and pineapple guy will start having discussions. Go figure.
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10-09-2012, 05:04 AM
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Originally Posted by Sink r8
we shouldn't have any kind of private swap system. We should remove the absurd Reserves Required restrictions that caused people to run away from SWP, and we should have a 21-st century SINGLE MARKET for PCS, where seniority and transparency rule every transaction, and a SWP is not assigned a lower priority than a drop/WS, but handled as a simultaneous conditional drop and pick-up withn the same priority. IT WOULD ALL FIT WITHIN MAX PICK-UP, with a bow-wave, and we could all fill up throughout the year, to a reasonable amount that would be more in line to the pilot profession than the oldest profession.
Someone should bring this up and the next DALPA shin-dig as we really do need protection from ourselves.
10-09-2012, 05:43 AM
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Originally Posted by finis72
Been in lots of briefs lately and have not heard it discussed. First I heard of this was your post. While being possible I think your scenario is highly unlikely, too many variables to make it plausible.
10-09-2012, 05:53 AM
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Scambo, as you know, our trip mix makes it hard to 'fill up' to...75-82, if you've got a 70hr. line, as there is very little in open time, and what's there is usually too much time, ie. 32-46, and too much time to white slip...UNLESS...you unload a trip to do it. (ie. trip parking)
So, you are left with the low time line, or come up with a creative work around. I would prefer we go to a fixed cap, at the ALV, and then have bow wave and spill back added, to 'fix' the short months. This would eliminate a lot of the games people play.
Sure, they might still find a way to pick up a 46hr. trip on top of their 76hr. line, but they'd only be paid the ALV, and the rest could be used to fill up last month, and/or spill fwd to next mo.
Of course the MEC would then take a pay cut...from 87 down to 82.
Boo frickity hoo.
So, you are left with the low time line, or come up with a creative work around. I would prefer we go to a fixed cap, at the ALV, and then have bow wave and spill back added, to 'fix' the short months. This would eliminate a lot of the games people play.
Sure, they might still find a way to pick up a 46hr. trip on top of their 76hr. line, but they'd only be paid the ALV, and the rest could be used to fill up last month, and/or spill fwd to next mo.
Of course the MEC would then take a pay cut...from 87 down to 82.
Boo frickity hoo.
10-09-2012, 06:04 AM
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Originally Posted by Denny Crane
That works fine if your base is on east coast time...... Just make sure you are aware that the schedule check is on or after 1500 base time. That bit me a few years ago......
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Oof. Didn't know that. Thanks for the correction.
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