Any "Latest & Greatest" about Delta?
05-29-2012, 07:17 PM
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Originally Posted by newKnow
If anyone is looking for some real fighting, The Hatfields and McCoys is on the History Channel. They make Carl and Slowplay look like best friends. 
05-29-2012, 07:18 PM
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Just watched "Frontline: Flying Cheap" on Netflix. A good thing to watch before voting on this RJ swap deal.
05-29-2012, 07:19 PM
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Originally Posted by Boomer
Oh great, the 787 has a back door. whathafuh, Boeing? 
Wait, what?
05-29-2012, 07:22 PM
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Originally Posted by slowplay
Boomer, when can management get the new 76 seaters you're so worried about?
Hint..it's after they deliver planes to mainline. SWA has already published the delivery schedule. With that schedule they can't access the last of the 76 seaters until the end of 2015....
Hint..it's after they deliver planes to mainline. SWA has already published the delivery schedule. With that schedule they can't access the last of the 76 seaters until the end of 2015....
First of all, there is no requirement for Delta management to even measure the ratio until mid 2014. Then if it turns out Delta has exceeded the RJ ratio, they have until January 2015 to "execute their plan" to bring the RJ block hour ratio back into compliance.
I know that wasn't your question, but the measuring metric and timeline is important. Your question was one of penalty. There is NONE. There is only a requirement to...and I quote: "...execute their plan" to bring the RJ block hour ratio back into complicance. Our only option at that point would be to file a grievance. Then the grievance will be scheduled and eventually heard by an arbitrator. Then the arbitrator will park us for 15 to 20 years simply because somebody said they can. Then there's a possibility that the arbitrator will rule that Delta must put the RJ block hour ratio back into complicance...or he could decide that "ratio" didn't mean what DALPA thought it meant and find for the company.
Carl
I know that wasn't your question, but the measuring metric and timeline is important. Your question was one of penalty. There is NONE. There is only a requirement to...and I quote: "...execute their plan" to bring the RJ block hour ratio back into complicance. Our only option at that point would be to file a grievance. Then the grievance will be scheduled and eventually heard by an arbitrator. Then the arbitrator will park us for 15 to 20 years simply because somebody said they can. Then there's a possibility that the arbitrator will rule that Delta must put the RJ block hour ratio back into complicance...or he could decide that "ratio" didn't mean what DALPA thought it meant and find for the company.
Carl
05-29-2012, 07:24 PM
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Originally Posted by slowplay
Who is Carl?
05-29-2012, 07:24 PM
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Originally Posted by acl65pilot
Not sure that is true, but I think you are being TIC.
I recall the HAL pilots doing it and their agreement was bettered.
I recall the HAL pilots doing it and their agreement was bettered.
Originally Posted by acl65pilot
If we do turn this down, I would not be surprised to see the second one be worse. The MEC would then be dutifully bound to turn it down. TA 3 is probably what would we would accept, that is if what we have now is not acceptable to the rank and file.
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05-29-2012, 07:25 PM
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Originally Posted by nwaf16dude
Slow, when is Delta or DALPA doing to tell us definitively that we are not taking any air tran guys with the 717s? That rumor needs to be officially squashed before the vote.
05-29-2012, 07:25 PM
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Originally Posted by slowplay
Who is Carl?
Mr. Mc Coy, I presume.
05-29-2012, 07:30 PM
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Originally Posted by acl65pilot
Good one you. Like I said, I recall, not that I Know.
Many years ago ASA turned down an TA and it was fixed in weeks. Different era I know.
As I have said, voting no and turning it down is an unknown that comes with unquantifiable risks, but if this thing does not meet ones mins, they need to decide if the risk is worth the reward.
Many years ago ASA turned down an TA and it was fixed in weeks. Different era I know.
As I have said, voting no and turning it down is an unknown that comes with unquantifiable risks, but if this thing does not meet ones mins, they need to decide if the risk is worth the reward.
Carl
05-29-2012, 07:32 PM
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Originally Posted by newKnow
Exactly like the movie!
Mr. Mc Coy, I presume.
Mr. Mc Coy, I presume.
Carl
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