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Old 02-14-2013 | 11:50 AM
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Originally Posted by TenYearsGone
What people forget is that RA is the same RA that was at NWA. What has changed? We buy used aircraft and retrofit them, we outsource a lot of our flying and more importantly he really doesnt care if he is number 1 or 6.

I would be surprised if this cat will grow DAL organically. Maybe more codeshare, Jv's and career stagnating mergers.

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add to that..........The Delta MO historically is not to grow organically. Delta either acquires or merges when it wants to grow into somewhere. So, grow out west with Alaska or protect the east flank with Jet Blue? Interesting times
Old 02-14-2013 | 11:53 AM
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Originally Posted by newKnow
I think it was in one of my CQ's a while ago that some management type told our group that buying Alaska as a whole is not really attractive. His reasoning was that because a large share of their passengers are feed for another carrier (American), buying them would be akin to paying full price for half the revenue, but you still get all the pilots and planes.

I'm not an expert, but it made sense to me. I think we should just let Alaska be Alaska, without us, and build up LAX and SEA with 717's and A320's (since they are being underutilized and all).

Organic growth sounds good to me.
I agree, DAL and RA will not buy another airline to just grow. It is far cheaper (especially the way DL seems to get AC) to work a deal with Boeing or Airbus get a bunch of used or (like the 100 73NG"s from Boeing) Airbus' that are still being made but nobody wants while waiting for the Neos'. Why buy the problems of an integration unless it offers a lot of plus. HAL just in route authorities is better than AS. Spirit, Virgin and JB are just narrow body feed that can be replicated by growing from within..... without the BS of integration. Airbus' are too cheap to buy used. Why buy employee problems that come with it..

Now if we could just take the female FA's from Virgin and JB we would be golden!!
Old 02-14-2013 | 12:04 PM
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Originally Posted by flyallnite
I'm sure that's the idea/business case.
Are 717 trainees supposed to be going to MD-88 training and then tag on 717 training?

This would be a set back to the survey inputs which called for bringing MD-88/90 training on par with 320/319 pay, which of course I was assured wasn't mentioned in the survey....the one we never got to see.
Old 02-14-2013 | 12:07 PM
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Originally Posted by GunshipGuy
Are 717 trainees supposed to be going to MD-88 training and then tag on 717 training?

This would be a set back to the survey inputs which called for bringing MD-88/90 training on par with 320/319 pay, which of course I was assured wasn't mentioned in the survey....the one we never got to see.
Per the B717 Fleet page the B717 will have its own initial course. Of course, it's only for those not coming from the M88/90.
Old 02-14-2013 | 12:10 PM
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I understand it's a 5-day transition from M88 to 717.

Will it also be 5 days to go the other way, if guys bid that way down the road?

That would suck.
Old 02-14-2013 | 12:11 PM
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Originally Posted by johnso29
Per the B717 Fleet page the B717 will have its own initial course. Of course, it's only for those not coming from the M88/90.
That would seem to conflict with the one category theory.
Old 02-14-2013 | 12:18 PM
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Can someone post a route map of HA. It's pretty interesting. Lots of Japan to include one HND route. I think 3 destinations in Australia and Auckland. Airlineroute.net also has us pulling back more of our summer Europe flying out of ATL.
Old 02-14-2013 | 12:19 PM
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Originally Posted by forgot to bid
Screens coming to the 88, or so they said today in the crww room.
Is it going to look like the 717?
Old 02-14-2013 | 12:23 PM
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Originally Posted by GunshipGuy
That would seem to conflict with the one category theory.
I agree. I think there are too great of differences in the overhead panels to make a single category out of the 717/88/90.
Old 02-14-2013 | 12:35 PM
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Originally Posted by dalad
Can someone post a route map of HA. It's pretty interesting. Lots of Japan to include one HND route. I think 3 destinations in Australia and Auckland. Airlineroute.net also has us pulling back more of our summer Europe flying out of ATL.
That's why us buying/merging with HA makes complete sense. Plus, they fly +717ssss inter island. How fun would that be for an HNL base? Throw in GUA for the 73s. Ahh, its all coming together.
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