Any "Latest & Greatest" about Delta?
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FTB, isn't it a bit sexist to single out a woman for doing well when she came in 8th? I mean, where are the kudos for the 3rd - 7th? And 9th...didn't he do well, too? Just partly giving you a hard time--you're* take take was the same you'll hear from the experts who get paid for their take in front of the camera. I'm with you and I also think she had a really good race. But I can't help but note how the double standard applies: woman are just as good as men, but we have to give extra atta-girls to the women, cuz, well, their women. Just an observation. 
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And, I'll say this. I watched this race right along with my wife and daughter and we were glued to the tv. You wanna guess the last time they saw a race? Heck, even me. I don't watch Nascar but I'll watch the Daytona 500 maybe but I'd never cheer for a Chevy. I think I could point three drivers out of a crowd but thats it. But make it four now and yes I cheer for a Chevy. The girl is gold.
And I know this could be framed as girl beats discrimination in a mans world or just the opposite as some sort of affirmative action/ratings ploy by NASCAR, but I'll go glass half full on this one and say she is a good race car driver. Not to mention she looked mad in that interview and was trying to control her tongue, so she wants to win. That's cool. She seems like the real deal.
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Someone said they were acquired to be sold off for parts. Basically to us. I've heard one of the issues with the 90s we have is parts, so maybe someone made the right move.
Kind of like that 4 engined Lockheed corporate Jetstar. Who in their right mind wants a four engine corporate jet? Those engines were run on Hawkers, Citations, Falcons, etc, it'd be like running 2 of those other jets with one fuselage! So you could buy an unwanted one for $700K or less. Go ahead, waste your money.
Of course one savvy mechanic at a TFE overhaul location figured something out, those desirable engines hanging on the pylons of an undesirable jet are worth $2M+. So buy the jet for $700K and sell the engines for a quick net of $1.3M. Smart guy.
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Kind of like that 4 engined Lockheed corporate Jetstar. Who in their right mind wants a four engine corporate jet? Those engines were run on Hawkers, Citations, Falcons, etc, it'd be like running 2 of those other jets with one fuselage! So you could buy an unwanted one for $700K or less. Go ahead, waste your money.
Of course one savvy mechanic at a TFE overhaul location figured something out, those desirable engines hanging on the pylons of an undesirable jet are worth $2M+. So buy the jet for $700K and sell the engines for a quick net of $1.3M. Smart guy.
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I know, it's a bit deceiving when they say someone finished 8th and you think that's where they were the whole time. Try in position to win in the last turn and they go 2 or 3 wide and you fall 3rd to 8th really fast. Earnhardt JR had a great race too and made that move from 4th to 2nd and aren't they teammates? He was like I'm going for the win, see ya.
Well, I'll say this. I watched right along with my wife and daughter all hoping she'd win even if she drives a Chevy. You wanna guess the last time they saw a race? Heck, even me. I don't watch Nascar but I'll watch the Daytona 500 maybe. I think I could point three drivers out of a crowd but thats it. But make it four now.
And I know it could be framed as girl beats discrimination in boys game or the opposite as some sort of affirmative action/ratings ploy by NASCAR, but I'll go glass half full on this one and say what she did winning the poll and racing through the day solidified her as legit race car driver. Not to mention she looked mad in that interview and was trying to control her tongue, so she wants to win. That's cool.
Well, I'll say this. I watched right along with my wife and daughter all hoping she'd win even if she drives a Chevy. You wanna guess the last time they saw a race? Heck, even me. I don't watch Nascar but I'll watch the Daytona 500 maybe. I think I could point three drivers out of a crowd but thats it. But make it four now.
And I know it could be framed as girl beats discrimination in boys game or the opposite as some sort of affirmative action/ratings ploy by NASCAR, but I'll go glass half full on this one and say what she did winning the poll and racing through the day solidified her as legit race car driver. Not to mention she looked mad in that interview and was trying to control her tongue, so she wants to win. That's cool.
Pretty much describes my NASCAR attention span as the same. Right there with you--would have liked to have seen her win, and think she did well. But as she'll be the first to say, 8th isn't good enough. And even though I'm guilty of cheering for her, I find it an interesting social dynamic (even in my own mind)--she wants to be seen as just as another driver, and win on her own merits, yet she gets more attention because she's a woman. Well, in this case I'm all for both of those because she's doing the same job without any concessions (that I know of)--won the pole position even. Now, if we could only get the Army to see things this way.
Danica Patrick and Daytona 500
Some thoughts that support the used 747 rumor.
1. An established pattern of Delta buying used airplanes that are no longer in vogue pennies on the dollar. (SWA owning airplanes the past few decades is one thing that gave them a leg up on the competition). Low or no monthly payments is a good thing in the airline business.
2. Delta management has touted the benefits of having low cost iron on the property. This allows:
a. Flexibility to quickly adjust to market conditions and route opportunities. You can park the planes with no real penalty (other than paying the aliens for ramp space in Roswell) when the economy declines and dust them off to ramp up when needed.
b. Having low acquisition cost airplanes allows for more spares ready in wait to clean things up after the shoot hits the fan. The 747 is large enough to do a lot of clean up after storms where the new MO is cancel a ton of flights in advance then shift into high gear to get people on their way. The 747 can step in to a given route where say 5 flights to that destination have been cancelled. Get all the backed up pax to that destination on one airplane is a good thing.
c. Extra 747's allows the ability to pick up more charter work (which the company has been upbeat on lately) on short notice without disrupting other routes.
d. The comparatively low operating cost if you fill em up.
e. Should the company decide to reverse the "there is no money in cargo even though Fedex/UPS are minting money" the 747 purchased at a low cost can fill this need. Asia (specifically China) could produce some great opportunities in freight as Delta looks to expand into this part of the world.
f. When Delta decided to spend the money on the lie flat seats and upgrade the current 747 fleet they committed to at least another decade of 747 use at Delta Air Lines. Adding more numbers to any existing fleet typically brings cost down.
777-300's will do a nice job and these I am sure will come to Delta as well but for pennies on the dollar the 747-400 could fill a lot of gaps for a relatively low acquisition cost.
Food for thought whether it happens or not.
1. An established pattern of Delta buying used airplanes that are no longer in vogue pennies on the dollar. (SWA owning airplanes the past few decades is one thing that gave them a leg up on the competition). Low or no monthly payments is a good thing in the airline business.
2. Delta management has touted the benefits of having low cost iron on the property. This allows:
a. Flexibility to quickly adjust to market conditions and route opportunities. You can park the planes with no real penalty (other than paying the aliens for ramp space in Roswell) when the economy declines and dust them off to ramp up when needed.
b. Having low acquisition cost airplanes allows for more spares ready in wait to clean things up after the shoot hits the fan. The 747 is large enough to do a lot of clean up after storms where the new MO is cancel a ton of flights in advance then shift into high gear to get people on their way. The 747 can step in to a given route where say 5 flights to that destination have been cancelled. Get all the backed up pax to that destination on one airplane is a good thing.
c. Extra 747's allows the ability to pick up more charter work (which the company has been upbeat on lately) on short notice without disrupting other routes.
d. The comparatively low operating cost if you fill em up.
e. Should the company decide to reverse the "there is no money in cargo even though Fedex/UPS are minting money" the 747 purchased at a low cost can fill this need. Asia (specifically China) could produce some great opportunities in freight as Delta looks to expand into this part of the world.
f. When Delta decided to spend the money on the lie flat seats and upgrade the current 747 fleet they committed to at least another decade of 747 use at Delta Air Lines. Adding more numbers to any existing fleet typically brings cost down.
777-300's will do a nice job and these I am sure will come to Delta as well but for pennies on the dollar the 747-400 could fill a lot of gaps for a relatively low acquisition cost.
Food for thought whether it happens or not.
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Also, I can see where Boeing would offer us 744s to, imho, help another customer move into those 748s slots they're not filling. After all didn't Boeing buy A330s from SQ to help them into 777s? I'd bet those Airbus came at a good price to whoever bought them from Boeing.
World's Biggest Trade-In? Boeing buys 5 A346s from China Eastern in order to sell them 20 new 777s
Boeing has agreed to buy five Airbus A340 jets from China Eastern Airlines as part of a deal that will send 20 new Boeing 777s to China.
China Eastern announced last week that it had reached a deal to purchase 20 Boeing 777-300ERs worth just under $6 billion at list prices. A portion of the purchase price will be offset by essentially trading in all five of their A340-600 airliners to Boeing, who will in turn try to unload them on other buyers.
The A340-600s were delivered between 2003 and 2004, but are much less efficient than the 777s that will replace them on long-haul routes. Five A340-300s will remain in the China Eastern fleet.
While unusual, it is not the first time Boeing has purchased rival Airbus jets in order to smooth over a sale. In the early 2000s, for example, Boeing bought two 17 A340s from Singapore Airlines as part of a 777 deal.
Boeing has agreed to buy five Airbus A340 jets from China Eastern Airlines as part of a deal that will send 20 new Boeing 777s to China.
China Eastern announced last week that it had reached a deal to purchase 20 Boeing 777-300ERs worth just under $6 billion at list prices. A portion of the purchase price will be offset by essentially trading in all five of their A340-600 airliners to Boeing, who will in turn try to unload them on other buyers.
The A340-600s were delivered between 2003 and 2004, but are much less efficient than the 777s that will replace them on long-haul routes. Five A340-300s will remain in the China Eastern fleet.
While unusual, it is not the first time Boeing has purchased rival Airbus jets in order to smooth over a sale. In the early 2000s, for example, Boeing bought two 17 A340s from Singapore Airlines as part of a 777 deal.
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