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Old 06-27-2013 | 07:06 PM
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Look, drinking any drink or eating any snack (twix, snickers, etc) that is not provided with a PWA required crew meal is stealing. I don't care if you take it with you to the overnight or drink or eat it while flying. You are stealing. Buy your own damn drinks and snacks.



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Old 06-27-2013 | 07:08 PM
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There isn't any FAA requirement to have the emergency exit window shades up for take off, is there? I'm not making a case for or against the policy; just trying to determine if it's up to individual airlines or not.
I know AirTran said it was a requirement or at least at one time the (or maybe some rogue) FAs made a PA saying it was. I don't think we do and if we do - it's not enforced.
Old 06-27-2013 | 07:15 PM
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Originally Posted by forgot to bid
I know AirTran said it was a requirement or at least at one time the (or maybe some rogue) FAs made a PA saying it was. I don't think we do and if we do - it's not enforced.
It is required unless something has changed. Common sense to be able to see what is outside the exit. Do you want pax evacuating into fuel and fire?
Old 06-27-2013 | 07:24 PM
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Originally Posted by forgot to bid
Look, drinking any drink or eating any snack (twix, snickers, etc) that is not provided with a PWA required crew meal is stealing. I don't care if you take it with you to the overnight or drink or eat it while flying. You are stealing. Buy your own damn drinks and snacks.



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I bet that guy gives great R&I advice!
Old 06-27-2013 | 07:29 PM
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Originally Posted by 80ktsClamp
I bet that guy tirelessly gives great R&I advice!
Fixed it for ya.

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Old 06-27-2013 | 08:43 PM
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Originally Posted by Bucking Bar
It is required unless something has changed. Common sense to be able to see what is outside the exit. Do you want pax evacuating into fuel and fire?
Oh trust me I agree. I believe they should all be open for takeoff and landing every single time. But FL made or makes a PA saying all window shades must be up for takeoff and landing, I just don't think our FAs do that unless I'm totally zoning out when riding in the back (very very possible, or I'm playing with my ipho... sleeping )

Let me look in their book...... ... ....... okay, according to the On Board Manual 7.2.57 it just says passengers may keep window shades closed for takeoff and landing. They should be open if there is an emergency. And in warm weather encourage passengers to close shades and open air vents when at the gate.

So I guess we don't require it normally. Good to know. I've wondered about that too before.
Old 06-27-2013 | 10:38 PM
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Originally Posted by GunshipGuy
There isn't any FAA requirement to have the emergency exit window shades up for take off, is there? I'm not making a case for or against the policy; just trying to determine if it's up to individual airlines or not.
My commute is served by almost every domestic carrier, and the only time I've *ever* heard an announcement about window shades during takeoff and landing was while onboard Spirit.
Old 06-27-2013 | 10:39 PM
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MOSCOW (Reuters) - Russian state-controlled airline Aeroflot (AFLT.ME) is considering leaving the SkyTeam alliance because of unfavorable agreements with other members, in particular U.S. Delta Air Lines Inc (DAL.N), Kommersant reported on Friday.
The newspaper cited sources close to Aeroflot's board of directors as saying the company was not happy with the development of its routes in the United States, where its partner Delta Air Lines Inc (DAL.N) offers high fares.
Aeroflot declined to comment on the report.
Dropping out of the alliance could cost Aeroflot $20 million and the airline may consider joining Star Alliance, the biggest airline marketing group, with 27 members.
As a member of SkyTeam, which brings together 19 global airlines, Aeroflot cannot undercut prices offered by other members and could be more competitive in the Star Alliance, group, Kommersant said.
The agreement to join SkyTeam in 2004 was signed in the Kremlin, a political stamp of approval largely due to close ties with Air France (AIRF.PA), the leading member.
(Reporting by Maya Dyakina and Gleb Stolyarov; editing by Elizabeth Piper)



So they are upset that once their passengers get to the US our pricing is to high? We require higher ticket prices? Not real sure what they expect would change if they shackle (no pun intended) up with star. I imagine we connect far more passengers to Aeroflot heading to Moscow then they bring Russians to Delta anyway. Be gone Aeroflot hopefully you can continue to fill those Yak's on inter Russian routes.

Never liked those communists anyway!
Old 06-28-2013 | 03:37 AM
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Originally Posted by Pineapple Guy
It is..... so what's your point?
Your a jerk. Every time you post this about commuting you make yourself look even worse. I hope karma bites you in the a$$ some day.
Old 06-28-2013 | 03:58 AM
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Originally Posted by forgot to bid
Originally Posted by Bucking Bar
It is required unless something has changed. Common sense to be able to see what is outside the exit. Do you want pax evacuating into fuel and fire?

Oh trust me I agree. I believe they should all be open for takeoff and landing every single time. But FL made or makes a PA saying all window shades must be up for takeoff and landing, I just don't think our FAs do that unless I'm totally zoning out when riding in the back (very very possible, or I'm playing with my ipho... sleeping )

Let me look in their book...... ... ....... okay, according to the On Board Manual 7.2.57 it just says passengers may keep window shades closed for takeoff and landing. They should be open if there is an emergency. And in warm weather encourage passengers to close shades and open air vents when at the gate.

So I guess we don't require it normally. Good to know. I've wondered about that too before.
Was asking because a friend if mine who's a HVC was curious. Turns out he was on a Delta connection flight and seated next to an emergency exit. The FA directed him to keep the shade down due to the hot weather. In takeoff he lifted the shade which brought a sharp rebuke from the FA' "I told you to keep that down!" He didn't appreciate the treatment, and this guy has always been very understanding.
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