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Old 03-02-2013 | 10:27 AM
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Originally Posted by Schwanker
Can someone give the cliff note version of our jumpseat priority on DCI carriers? How do we stack up with our friends on Delta colored metal who kindly fly our passengers for us?
On CPZ, it goes CPZ pilots, DL pilots, DCI pilots, OAL pilots. It was the same at my last DCI carrier.

1. Operating companies pilots
2. Delta Pilots (1st come first on)
3. DCI pilots (1st come first on)
4. OAL pilots (1st come first serve)

With less than15 mins prior to departure it is a free for all...First there first on.

I did get jammed by a gate agent who put a JetBlue pilot on a mainline jumpseat instead of me (a DCI pilot). So not all gate agents know the priority, ask her to verify with the PIC if there is a question (She wouldn't check with the PIC or let me ask).
Old 03-02-2013 | 10:51 AM
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Originally Posted by BlueMoon
On CPZ, it goes CPZ pilots, DL pilots, DCI pilots, OAL pilots. It was the same at my last DCI carrier.

1. Operating companies pilots
2. Delta Pilots (1st come first on)
3. DCI pilots (1st come first on)
4. OAL pilots (1st come first serve)

With less than15 mins prior to departure it is a free for all...First there first on.

I did get jammed by a gate agent who put a JetBlue pilot on a mainline jumpseat instead of me (a DCI pilot). So not all gate agents know the priority, ask her to verify with the PIC if there is a question (She wouldn't check with the PIC or let me ask).
Thanks. Exactly what I was wondering. I do believe all DCI's are not the same though. Others? I would think it would be on our ALPA jumpseat committee site, but it's not. Thanks again.
Old 03-02-2013 | 10:59 AM
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Originally Posted by Schwanker
Thanks. Exactly what I was wondering. I do believe all DCI's are not the same though. Others? I would think it would be on our ALPA jumpseat committee site, but it's not. Thanks again.
For Expressjet, mainline pilots and all other DCI pilots are the same priority FWIW.
Old 03-02-2013 | 11:04 AM
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Thx! I believe Pinnacle is as well, unless that changes under the new arrangements. MSA use to be like Compass priorities.
Old 03-02-2013 | 11:21 AM
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Originally Posted by Schwanker
Can someone give the cliff note version of our jumpseat priority on DCI carriers? How do we stack up with our friends on Delta colored metal who kindly fly our passengers for us?
At Pinnacle:
1. Pinnacle (time of check in)
2. Delta/DCI (time of check in)
3. OAL (time of check in)
Old 03-02-2013 | 11:47 AM
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Originally Posted by SailorJerry
I can't believe you see this as inadequate or concessionary. The only time the company has access to this provision is if they believe that there was something going on besides you being sick (i.e. they have enough other proof to hammer you)
Thank you for your condescending and completely short-sighted reply.

Your argument sounds an awful like the stuff you hear from gun control zealots: "Why would you want an assault rifle unless you're going on a killing spree?"

I'm not worried about "getting mine;" I rarely call in sick. I'm not necessarily even worried about that stipulation now or in the immediate future. But "this is the way it's worked in the past" is a p!ss poor substitute for ironclad contractual protection (which, historically, we shouldn't expect from ALPA).

I'm concerned that future leadership administrations will use this to take hostages if things get heated in future contract talks, etc. (not that's even possible with ALPA on their side).

Have you seen what Smisek, Horton, Parker, Tilton, etc. have tried to pull? If you think Sleepy Ed or the next sociopath to run the company won't come after us with every loophole they can find if we start growing a spine, I guess I can't help you.

Wouldn't it be nice if ALPA thought a few moves ahead? Think of it as chess, not "go fish."
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Originally Posted by Purple Drank
Thank you for your condescending and completely short-sighted reply.

Your argument sounds an awful like the stuff you hear from gun control zealots: "Why would you want an assault rifle unless you're going on a killing spree?"

I'm not worried about "getting mine;" I rarely call in sick. I'm not necessarily even worried about that stipulation now or in the immediate future. But "this is the way it's worked in the past" is a p!ss poor substitute for ironclad contractual protection (which, historically, we shouldn't expect from ALPA).

I'm concerned that future leadership administrations will use this to take hostages if things get heated in future contract talks, etc. (not that's even possible with ALPA on their side).

Have you seen what Smisek, Horton, Parker, Tilton, etc. have tried to pull? If you think Sleepy Ed or the next sociopath to run the company won't come after us with every loophole they can find if we start growing a spine, I guess I can't help you.

Wouldn't it be nice if ALPA thought a few moves ahead? Think of it as chess, not "go fish."
Would you rather have it the way it is now, or the way it was before?

You're welcome. I appreciate the same in return.
Old 03-02-2013 | 12:50 PM
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Have I recently read that people are experiencing delays with expense reports by Flightline?
Old 03-02-2013 | 01:05 PM
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Originally Posted by SailorJerry
Would you rather have it the way it is now, or the way it was before?

"Would you rather have it terrible or just awful?"

It should have been done right.

If this is the best ALPA can do when the company's making billions, I'd say you've done a magnificent job lowering expectations.
Old 03-02-2013 | 01:08 PM
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Originally Posted by johnso29
Have I recently read that people are experiencing delays with expense reports by Flightline?
I put in for mine in December. Just received it yesterday. I would call that a delay.
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