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03-16-2013 | 08:50 AM

#126131

johnso29

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From: B757/767

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Originally Posted by hoserpilot

Dear Johnso,

I tossed a small grenade and went flying. Looks like you and 80 went toe to toe for a bit. Sorry dude!

. Guess that's why I usually just post boobs n jokes.

Hoserpilot

No biggie hoserpilot. I didn't take offense. If we don't agree on Delta stuff, I'm always up for talking NHL & beer.

03-16-2013 | 08:50 AM

#126132

Sink r8

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Whatever it is, it would only be polite to help her look.

03-16-2013 | 09:06 AM

#126133

johnso29

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From: B757/767

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Originally Posted by Jack Bauer

Johnson, this may surprise you but I also am an optimistic person. I just have to speak up when I feel we are headed the wrong direction...you know that whole CRM thing. Sometimes optimistically going with the flow hoping for the best gets you so far off course you dont have time to recover. But maybe you do.

No matter how hard I try, I can't put myself in your, GunshipGuy, or daldude's shoes. I can't pretend to know how you guys feel. That being said your frustration IMO is justified. All I can do to help you guys, is vote down anything I feel will further stagnate our careers. I intend to do nothing less.

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Originally Posted by Jack Bauer

I doubt SD was alone in coming up with the "we may hire if we get this voted in". Chances are it was just one prong of a mulitfaceted strategy put together by this guy. Delta Air Lines Newsroom - Press Kit

That said, SD's words may have gained that extra 12% to put the contract over the top. That said, at some point you just have to stop believing anything coming from management. It is what it is.

Perhaps his words did gain that extra 12%. I'm not sure that we will ever know. As I said before, I am not defending his statement. Just like you said, at some point you just have to stop believing anything coming from management. It's sad, but true.

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Originally Posted by Jack Bauer

SD likely did what Glen C told him to get a pass. I do think it hurt his credibility going forward. The people we should be most upset with is our representation. The salesmanship (rather than just producing the facts) was ridiculous. It would be nice to have an organization that acted without passion or prejudice instead of a bunch of used car salesman clowns. Its embarrassing really. And the secrets, withheld info, inside deals and politicking just plain disgusting.

Amen. I'm with you on that. Unfortunately I don't think we can ever get this, regardless of our representation.

Thanks for the cordial discussion.

03-16-2013 | 09:10 AM

#126134

ExAF

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From: Retired

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Originally Posted by maddogmax

Already got a pm with the info. You guy's are the best!
Thanks Schwanker!

Can you send that pm my way??? I'm too lazy to go over to the ALPA boards!

03-16-2013 | 09:54 AM

#126135

gloopy

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From: window seat

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Originally Posted by GunshipGuy

Might not clear the palette, but a better direction for the day.

You're my new best friend call me every 5 minutes!

03-16-2013 | 11:31 AM

#126136

cni187

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Originally Posted by johnso29

No biggie hoserpilot. I didn't take offense. If we don't agree on Delta stuff, I'm always up for talking NHL & beer.

I'm enjoying a Kona Brewing Company KoKo Brown right now!!

03-16-2013 | 11:33 AM

#126137

cni187

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Are the AE bid awards out yet?

Just wanted to be first

03-16-2013 | 11:37 AM

#126138

buzzpat

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From: Urban chicken rancher.

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Originally Posted by Doug Masters

I wonder what shes looking for down there?

The next DAL wide body order.....

03-16-2013 | 12:59 PM

#126139

XtremeF150

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From: M88B

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Originally Posted by cni187

Are the AE bid awards out yet?

Just wanted to be first

Hey wait it isn't closed yet. Isn't that kinda like calling shotgun before exiting the building

03-16-2013 | 01:16 PM

#126140

capncrunch

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Originally Posted by johnso29

All I can do to help you guys, is vote down anything I feel will further stagnate our careers. I intend to do nothing less.

I feel vindicated. I noticed that over the past year your tune changed and have said so a number of times. I used to agree with most of what you posted and then you switched. Now its more of a everything is ok why complain.

I now know why.

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