That's exactly what you are calling me. Regardless that is straight from people involved in the process. The offered more pay to run more seats at DCI.

Did it ever occur to you that the 190 demand was not real, but rather a diversion or negotiating tactic?
"We really, really, really want the 190 and want it to be flown at DCI."
"No way."
"OK, let's just meet in the middle and give us lots of new 76 seaters."
"Sounds good. You gotta deal."

06-05-2013 | 12:01 PM

#131902

80ktsClamp

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From: Poodle Whisperer

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mesabah

They may have never asked for it in negotiations, I don't know that. However, Delta management did ask Pinnacle to come up with rates for the E190. The message boards exploded with the rumor Delta wanted E190's after that. I can't help but think it is A4A that comes up with that crap.

That was late last year when that rumor popped up, right? DL contract negotiations concluded in spring.

Every time someone has posed a question to RA regarding the E190 he has lambasted the airplane as an overly expensive, short term solution to a longer term problem.

06-05-2013 | 12:12 PM

#131903

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From: Light Chop

Quote:

Originally Posted by dalad

My all time favorite from Mark Twain is "I have never wished anyone dead but I have read some obituaries with great pleasure". Something like that.

Here's another:

Ah, well, I am a great and sublime fool. But then I am God’s fool, and all His work must be contemplated with respect.

06-05-2013 | 12:19 PM

#131904

Carl Spackler

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Originally Posted by sailingfun

Delta wanted the E190 rather badly in the last contract negotiation. They just did not want it at the mainline. They were willing to pay to have it at DCI however the offer was rejected.

Complete BS. You weren't there, and you can point to no document to back up your claim...again.

Carl

06-05-2013 | 12:19 PM

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From: Light Chop

So here's a rumor:

Quote:

possible delays with the 717? I hear they're slowing training somewhat to help mitigate the 88 pilot shortage (i.e. keeping 88 pilots longer). And I've heard from several FL pilots that the MELs are getting pretty long on the jet. Someone from training explained that Boeing has to accept the airplanes first from SWA and per the agreement they can't show up in a mess. If so, that could cause some delays prior to them getting fixed up for us as Boeing and SWA work out who is going to pay to get them to what Boeing says is acceptable. So expect the "aggressive" delivery schedule to fail. Supposedly though we do have a 717 ready to start some bounces and OE training. And that once they're here they'll do some sort of job share with the DC-9 in that they would sporadically pull a DC-9 off and put a 717 on the route as they see fit.

Don't know, just repeating several different people.

06-05-2013 | 12:26 PM

#131906

Carl Spackler

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Originally Posted by scambo1

Sailing;

I don't believe one word of this post.

And I am not calling you a liar.

I am. And it's a real habit with sailingfun. He simply makes this stuff up in some desperate attempt to appear that he's in the know. He has no evidence whatsoever.

Carl

06-05-2013 | 12:30 PM

#131907

Carl Spackler

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Quote:

Originally Posted by sailingfun

That's exactly what you are calling me.

That's exactly what you are.

Quote:

Originally Posted by sailingfun

Regardless that is straight from people involved in the process. The offered more pay to run more seats at DCI.

Bullsh!t. You're making it up.

Carl

06-05-2013 | 12:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Columbia

Maybe, however almost every pilot on this forum stated as almost a fact that we would lose that aircraft in this contract . Post after post about DCI getting larger aircraft including articles from industry experts.
The number of 76 seaters contractually allowed was reduced from 255 to 223 in the new contract.