Any "Latest & Greatest" about Delta?
02-05-2013 | 06:16 AM
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02-05-2013 | 06:33 AM
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We could easily fix this whole beacon on = flight pay nonsense by changing the word "Duty" to "Flight" ie. we get paid FLIGHT PAY for all time on Duty. Then there would be zero incentive to turn the beacon on, until you are fully ready and cleared to push.
It shouldn't matter if we are sitting in a black chair for 3 hours, waiting to fly to RDU, or DHing around the system, or if you are sleeping on the way to Dubai, we should be getting paid Flight Pay when we are At WORK.
If the company would rather sit us in a black chair in ATL, than fly us, well, that's their choice, but FU, PM comes to mind.
It shouldn't matter if we are sitting in a black chair for 3 hours, waiting to fly to RDU, or DHing around the system, or if you are sleeping on the way to Dubai, we should be getting paid Flight Pay when we are At WORK.
If the company would rather sit us in a black chair in ATL, than fly us, well, that's their choice, but FU, PM comes to mind.
Face it, no matter in what manner it comes to us, we want more money. Attempts to reduce "more money" are offensive to all of us.
Micromanaging the operation will come back to bite them, the more rules they make, the more I will follow the rules without solving problems. If those rules end up hosing the operation because they don't want us to use our heads to "make it work" I don't care, it has become the Company's problem not mine. They pay us a shotload of money to make good decisions, if they take away the asset of the Delta Pilots using good judgement on the line, the operation will suffer.
02-05-2013 | 06:45 AM
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Fixed it for you.
You are right, but their counter will be "that is what the duty rig is for".
Face it, no matter in what manner it comes to us, we want more money. Attempts to reduce "more money" are offensive to all of us.
Micromanaging the operation will come back to bite them, the more rules they make, the more I will follow the rules without solving problems. If those rules end up hosing the operation because they don't want us to use our heads to "make it work" I don't care, it has become the Company's problem not mine. They pay us a shotload less then they should of money to make good decisions, if they take away the asset of the Delta Pilots using good judgement on the line, the operation will suffer.
Face it, no matter in what manner it comes to us, we want more money. Attempts to reduce "more money" are offensive to all of us.
Micromanaging the operation will come back to bite them, the more rules they make, the more I will follow the rules without solving problems. If those rules end up hosing the operation because they don't want us to use our heads to "make it work" I don't care, it has become the Company's problem not mine. They pay us a shotload less then they should of money to make good decisions, if they take away the asset of the Delta Pilots using good judgement on the line, the operation will suffer.
02-05-2013 | 07:00 AM
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Why not just not ask for a raise next contract, and instead just ask for pay from Sign in till end of the last flight plus 45 minutes. Any time we are ON DUTY, we are getting paid. Heck we might even be able to take a "pay rate cut" and still get out ahead.
I guess Timbo actually already suggested this, sorry.
I guess Timbo actually already suggested this, sorry.
02-05-2013 | 07:02 AM
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I'm sure he'll be back, this is probably grooming him for higher positions than just Pinnacle.
02-05-2013 | 07:03 AM
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So let me get this straight, the president of an airline that now no longer exists is going to take the reigns of an airline that is just emerging from Bankruptcy? There is absolutely no one in the world better qualified than a person who already sunk one airline?
02-05-2013 | 07:20 AM
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OTOH, Comair as a regional airline seemed to have its act together. It was simply sacrificed on the alter of "not cheap enough."
02-05-2013 | 07:28 AM
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Well I guess Delta has solved it's "Pilot Shortage" issue, not that it ever had one, or ever will have one, but now they've got the pipeline ready to go, as soon as they can...just...open...the...valve!
Damn, it's rusted shut!
Damn, it's rusted shut!
02-05-2013 | 07:36 AM
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Skeds ran pretty well when he was running if, if I remember correctly. (I was, and still am on reserve so I see how it all runs). From the sound of friends over at Pinnacle, the scheduling department is in dire need of improvement.
I'm sure he'll be back, this is probably grooming him for higher positions than just Pinnacle.
I'm sure he'll be back, this is probably grooming him for higher positions than just Pinnacle.
1. He was just a line swine when he was furloughed and hired off the street into crew resources.
2. He is the invisible hand behind not furloughing later and (maybe) carrying extra bodies today.
3. I don't know if he is a "pilot advocate," but he definitely was able to translate the possibility of "bad blood" from furloughing into goodwill (even though we may not acknowledge it).
4. I have never heard a swabbo that worked with/for him have anything but praise from the Navy days.
There is no doubt he's being groomed (whatever that means). IMO, he already has the credentials.
02-05-2013 | 07:46 AM
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I'd make a couple of points about BW from what I have seen.
1. He was just a line swine when he was furloughed and hired off the street into crew resources.
2. He is the invisible hand behind not furloughing later and (maybe) carrying extra bodies today.
3. I don't know if he is a "pilot advocate," but he definitely was able to translate the possibility of "bad blood" from furloughing into goodwill (even though we may not acknowledge it).
4. I have never heard a swabbo that worked with/for him have anything but praise from the Navy days.
There is no doubt he's being groomed (whatever that means). IMO, he already has the credentials.
1. He was just a line swine when he was furloughed and hired off the street into crew resources.
2. He is the invisible hand behind not furloughing later and (maybe) carrying extra bodies today.
3. I don't know if he is a "pilot advocate," but he definitely was able to translate the possibility of "bad blood" from furloughing into goodwill (even though we may not acknowledge it).
4. I have never heard a swabbo that worked with/for him have anything but praise from the Navy days.
There is no doubt he's being groomed (whatever that means). IMO, he already has the credentials.
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