Airline Pilot Central Forums - Any "Latest & Greatest" about Delta?

Ya don't go anywhere fast and ya don't take a lot with you, but the looks you get when you pull up at the FBO..

http://www.pixstel.com/luscombe-silv...ics33-3309.jpg

Like.......

Jack Bauer

08-18-2013 01:59 AM

Let's not forget this failed merger from over a decade ago due to the Justice Dept threatening a lawsuit because of "diminished competition".

United-US Airways Merger Dead - ABC News

Bucking Bar

08-18-2013 05:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jack Bauer (Post 1464995)

Let's not forget this failed merger from over a decade ago due to the Justice Dept threatening a lawsuit because of "diminished competition".

United-US Airways Merger Dead - ABC News

Jack,

I've not heard much as to why the DOJ overlooked Southwest's acquisition of Air Tran and then filed an action seeking injunctive relief for consumers in the US Air / American deal.

Back when United was involved, it was my understanding United itself wanted to kill the deal and that they had openly shared US Air's plans to consolidate the Companies in a way that was going to be ugly for all involved. Maybe the DOJ simply updated their references with current quotes from the US Air management team, I dunno. American's team put out some really rosy scenarios for their stand alone growth model (with a bunch of airplane orders that surely triggered lobbyists ....)

US Air's management has a bad reputation in some parts of the industry. It isn't that they drive any harder a deal, they're just nasty about it. Business still gets done but bad head work and poor CRM among their executive ranks makes everything harder than it should be.

ALPA's or Anderson's probably got some inside scoop. It will be interesting to hear. At this point it looks like this is more than a divestiture issue.

scambo1

08-18-2013 05:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by forgot to bid (Post 1464925)

So I tried to be a good boy (far right),

http://s3-ec.buzzfed.com/static/enha...63806147-3.jpg

and read my B717 VOL 2 cover to cover. I got stuck a few pages in when I realized how much time, 3 pages, was being dedicated to how the toilet works.

As you read: "A toilet assembly is in each lavatory. The toilet assembly is installed behind a removable shroud. It is a self-contained line replaceable unit with electrical and plumbing connections. The toilet includes the following:
• A toilet bowl
• A Flush Control Unit (FCU)
• A flush valve
• A rinse water valve"

And it goes on and on about the flush control unit. Then you get to the Logic Control Module. Yes, it has one and it gets its own header on the page. But it uses 28 VDC power to operate 2 channels. I know right. Duh.

Then there is the 3-phase 115 VAC blower control relay and it bullet points the 3 reasons that system energizes which includes being below 16,000', service panel door is closed and wait for it, the thermostats in the vaccum blower do not sense a blower motor over temp.

And this is all before we get to the ultrasonic level sensors.

http://s3-ec.buzzfed.com/static/enha...63805968-0.jpg

IMO, the most important info about an aircraft lav is whether you need to build a nest before performing the in flight emergency procedure for "pressing ham"

badflaps

08-18-2013 07:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by scambo1 (Post 1465042)

IMO, the most important info about an aircraft lav is whether you need to build a nest before performing the in flight emergency procedure for "pressing ham"

An I love New York coffee cup?

Wasatch Phantom

08-18-2013 07:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by badflaps (Post 1465088)

An I love New York coffee cup?

As someone who genuinely detests New York that strikes me as a "reusable piddle pack"...

Bucking Bar

08-18-2013 10:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by forgot to bid (Post 1464925)

and read my B717 VOL 2 cover to cover. I got stuck a few pages in when I realized how much time, 3 pages, was being dedicated to how the toilet works.

That's because at Douglas, a lot of thought went into the toilet.

Nearly no thought went into the:

Wing - oh we already have one of those
Flight Controls - worked in 1960, it will work today
Brakes - carry over
Nose Wheel Steering - see brakes
Engines - Gulfstream's got that worked out - just copy their data and send it in
Avionics - Hey what did we do with that MD-11 stuff that didn't sell? Well, use it.
Hydraulics - we're proud of the fact you don't need the system, but we stuck some DC-10-30 parts in there for good measure, what could go wrong?

The toilet was new, probably because they had to stick a smoke detector in there and decided to finally get rid of the honeybucket on cave wall drawings they were using. Around Douglas, that's exciting stuff! I mean, in Chariots of the Gods they thought this was an ancient astronaut. They just got the orientation wrong ... it is really supposed to be a First Officer looking through a periscope to ensure the mains are down following a hydraulic failure with all the passenger's carry ons piled on top.

http://unitedcats.files.wordpress.co...cket.jpg</div>

It was Mayans making fun of Douglas engineering ... back in the day.

buzzpat

08-18-2013 11:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by scambo1 (Post 1465042)

IMO, the most important info about an aircraft lav is whether you need to build a nest before performing the in flight emergency procedure for "pressing ham"

The "Magic Carpet Ride" is the way to go when you absolutely have to do THAT in THERE. Even works in the 73.

Make sure you smoosh a couple Twix Bars together and leave them in the bowl for your partner. Works every time. ;)

All times are GMT -8. The time now is 06:43 PM.

Page 13739 of 20174