I guess logging on late on a Sunday, you miss "stuff."

 

Not necessarily. Yeah if you have pneumonia or strep throat or a broken bone, etc then sure, the system is air tight in your favor. See any Dr. in the world, get a note, done. But say you get a mild to moderate stomach ache or feel nauseous or have a headache, etc. There's a metric ton of things you can't/shouldn't legally fly with but aren't "verifiable" by a doctor, ever. So you get sick on or near a weekend, holiday, vacation? How about a block of days surrounded by several days off? Or several day on? You could say literally any sick call is suspicious for one reason or another, and not only a lot but probably most sick calls can never be "doctor verified" because there is no test or method to verify most minor illnesses other than patient testimony. So then what? Bottom line this ridiculous one way sophistry will end up with less sick calls to the company but more pilots flying [just a little?] sick. Guaranteed.

 

Well I think almost anyone has a block of days ON surrounded by a block of days OFF.

 

Football transcends politics or airline affiliation. The only thing you could possibly say that would offend me would be "Go gaytors". I would hunt you down and make sure you never got hired here. I'm sure that at some point we will play down there in College Station. I am looking forward to a small stadium venue.

 

Exactly. Show me any sick call on any pilot's line and I can do aggressive DA looking for a resume padding conviction and come up with something that could be interpreted under the incredibly meaningless standard of "good faith basis" if I wanted to. The only bulwark we have with language that pathetic is the sheer number of inquiries. Its hard for them to come after all of us at once. But they can come after any of us for any reason any time they want. And we gave them that ability through blind trust and that was a mistake. Pilots will fly sick because of this policy. We're accepting some level of intimidation and pilot pushing with unilateral pro company contractual sophistry, perhaps because we were naive or perhaps because we thought it would help monetize something else by reducing over all sick calls and subsequent staffing plans and hoping we get a cut of that. If you have something that can be easily documented, you're bulletproof. For many pilots who just don't feel well however, they will be bullied into flying sick. Just not super duper sick. When pilots worry more about getting an "ops check good, could not duplicate" from a company doctor, they will fly sick. Guaranteed.

 

Yep-and having a sinus infection or trouble clearing ones ears doesn't mean they can't waterski, drink beer, or paint the house.

 

I'm "old school", value my integrity very highly, don't abuse sick leave and deeply resent having my word questioned...

In my opinion the new policy "punishes the innocent to protect the guilty".

 

Agree completely. And, one of the unintended consequences is that guys flying sick will make their flying buddy sick and the numbers increase, not decrease.

I, for one, don't want a guy hacking and wheezing 3 feet away from me in the Petri dish that is the 73 cockpit.

 

You do realize that they could do the EXACT same thing under the old contract, right? So why would anymore pilots fly sick under this policy? And if you call in sick, & can't verify do you get punished? I haven't heard of anyone being disciplined. You simply don't get your time verified. And now you get 100 hours of unverified time. Under the old contract the company could verify ANY sick leave usage.

I think people are blowing this entire thing out of proportion.

 

I believe what I'm seeing a few posts up is the aftermath from a post that was pulled down. I believe that I heard the rumor in question a month ago and have repeated it exactly ZERO times. Also have had the occasion to talk to the subject and found them friendly and knowledgeable. It would be a person of very little quality that would post such a thing here.