I am with you there. Until it is on the ramp with DAL pilots in the seats it is just wishful thinking, but I am optimistic on this since the order was announced.

As far as what base they fly out (see dalad's post above) I am not sure how much it really matters - guys seem to follow the WBs around the system so we will all benefit.

Hell with 10 more WBs in the system I may even move up 1 number in LAX on the 737B.

Scoop :)

Good post. I don't think anyone is debating whether the NRT operation is going to morph over time, but rather how much and how soon, and is this the best we can do? That's hardly saying "no", and the usual hardliners coming on with the 85% or 0%, "Jane you ignorant $lut" arguments make me deeply suspicious.

How do we set up our bidding for CQ? Due month is Dec. Would prefer CQ in this order. JAN (grace), DEC (due) and NOV as a last choice. Thanks

I read the online magazine... where as we got $1500 this year for doing nothing we get $250 next year for doing nothing and $0 the following year for doing nothing. You can make up some of the money by doing physicals etc. but not all of it (less than half). It also mentions premiums going up as well as deductibles.

All in all a net loss to my income well north of $1000 yr. or 1% of my 3% raise. Let's just call it a 1.5% raise in January. :mad:

Too complicated for a quick response. There is a PBS CQ bidding guide that lays it all out. You can probably pull it off DNET/PBS site, or I can e-mail you a PDF if you PM me your E-mail address.

Scoop

The projected Training/Conversion is out for the last AE. Under scheduling section of Deltanet. That's All, now back to your regular scheduled program.

The LR can do SIN from JFK (it just cant carry all the mail) and probably Bangkok too, so SEA shouldn't be a problem.

They are in a no win position in a sense then: If they say no, and the company then DOES pull down significant flying, there will be a ruckus from the dough boys about how DALPA didn't protect us. If they DO sign an agreement as rumored, you get the emotional response you allude to. So how should they proceed? Will you support them if we tell the company to pack sand and they subsequently pull it down or do you want the protection they negotiated?

I quit thinking suspicious thoughts about this stuff a long time ago. We have to start thinking like investors and businessmen instead of union thugs. Look at today's news for example. There is a Bloomberg article about DAL and VA aligning flights and terminals from JFK to LHR. What did DAL stock do? (crossed $24/share earlier in the day) Wall Street is paying attention to DAL. We are fighting a 2000s style union "war", and we have an alternative group that wants to send us back to the 1940s. JMHO, YMMV, but I do know that DAL stock is treating me pretty well these days... Business is dynamic, not static. Grow or die. Being a member of the investment class is what awaits us when we retire whether or not you want to believe it, so getting a leg up on that concept now will make the transition much much easier, and far more lucrative.

/rant

T,

Based on what you just said, do you support a non-unionized pilot group?

If business is so dynamic, and we say yes to everything, for what reason do we have a CBA?

Yes. Everything is HIS fault. :D