Good questions.

It's nice to see the L&G behave more like the L&G, now that posters interested in representation issues have focused on the other thread, in good faith (my compliments to everyone for keeping it there, and keeping it pretty clean). I think this is good for everyone.

Some topics entail a lot of posts on one big issue, some topics have few posts, on a variety of smaller issues, entertainment, and discussions. The representation discussion is completely overwhelming the forum, which is pretty ironic considering it's not supposed to take place.

I think it would do a great disservice to the lurkers of the Hangar Talk section, just as in the L&G, to kill the whole thing over the actions of a few. Conversely, I don't think you can stop people from getting at the representation discussion obliquely, and so you have a full-on campaign going on Hangar Talk right now.

The solution might to model the forum after what we have right now on APC: 1) create a sub-section for representation issues, 2) systematically delete everything in Hangar Talk that belongs in that other section. This would stop the practice of deleting terms such as "DPA".

Of course, giving the DPA a place to play on the ALPA forum would presume the reciprocal, where you wouldn't have to be a member to discuss representation issues to participate on that website.

Bottom line is: there are a lot of users to these forums besides us frequent posters. If there are real obvious trends, and some people require their own place to play, or a topic obvious requires it's own place, then it should get a specific space. It's really very simple.

I was posting at the same time as Timbo. I think he has the pulse of the Hangar Talk pretty well. He doesn't know who I am, and I don't know who he is, of course, but I wonder if it's possible Timbo and I both recall a time when people had disagreements on the Hangar Talk, and worked through them like adults? That's not currently happening.

"Back in the day.." Hanger talk used to be about pilots VS. the company. But since the merger, there have been several posters who only want to discuss how they got screwed, are still being screwed, and always will be screwed. They seem to want to make every thread into a N v S debate, and the DPA thing isn't helping. Until we have "The Vote" it's not going to go away, I wish they'd just vote, asap, and get on with it.

I agree it would be great if there was a separate "New Collective Bargaining Agent" sub forum or such, let them debate it adnausium there.

I think it would be a mistake to shut down the board, there is valuable information which is exchanged. The N v S will go for 10 years we are in year 5-6 a few more to go. Truly if anyone does not like the exchange we don't have to read it.

You may be onto something there. I sometimes find myself hoping to fix the internet. Maybe I need to ignore it more.

Ftb or 80 put up a really good cartoon about that, once ("someone is wring on the internet").

I' outta here.

nice to see delta doing seasonal service from DTW to CUN,GCM,PUJ,SJU,and NAS. GCM I don't think has ever been offered some went away for awhile. Now Select my "SSP" number and hire me to fly them!

I think ALPA is barred from allowing such a discussion. Concievably the DPA could host such a forum and I might even follow it over there, but don't they lock out us folks who haven't sent a card?

you mean this?

http://imgs.xkcd.com/comics/duty_calls.png

From other corners of the internet....

Expressjet Maintenance gets to paint another airplane on the side of their toolboxes.

http://www.clickondetroit.com/image/...car-at-DTW.jpg

How about 458 people on a 777? Hope Air Canada's passengers are diminutive. 10 across!

http://www.airlinereporter.com/wp-co...ss-640x425.jpg

I haven't gone on it since the merger. Life's too short.