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Not at all. My original point, which is slowly becoming irrelevant as this thread drifts, was that voting no automatically is also no guarantee of a greater end result.

There are examples of NO votes being absolutely appropriate. The same applies to YES votes, however.

And vice versa. I'm guessing you voted no on the last agreement here at DAL. So long as you read the agreement, and concluded that it warranted a no vote, you have my respect. I just know that there are guys who will always vote no--and for that matter, others who will always vote yes--before they have read the first word of any agreement. We all need to be more accountable to ourselves than that.

^^^ I completely agree!

LeineLodge

11-11-2013 09:39 AM

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Originally Posted by RonRicco (Post 1517590)

Brielmann and Hazelton in NYC
Buzz and Ryan in cvg (both won by about the same margin against the write in)
Crane and Gaddis in SEA.

Interesting about SEA. Were either of the incumbents on the ballot?

RonRicco

11-11-2013 10:03 AM

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Originally Posted by LeineLodge (Post 1517615)

Interesting about SEA. Were either of the incumbents on the ballot?

No. Capt rep didn't make it out of nomination and AA chose not to run.

Purple Drank

11-11-2013 10:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Herkflyr (Post 1517580)

There are examples of NO votes being absolutely appropriate

...just not for DALPA.

Roadkill

11-11-2013 11:13 AM

Hey insurance gurus out there,
I got an email from ALPA telling me about my ALPA insurance. Here are the numbers I'm asking about:

Code:

Insurance                    Coverage   Annual Premium    Monthly Premium

DLS Guardian - US               $33,750    $767.40                $63.95

Group Term Life Member         $50,000    $45.36                  $3.78

ALPA Loss of License - VEBA    $1,200      $519.96                $43.33

Is this telling me I'm payin $767 a year to get just $33,750 of insurance from Guardian? That seems a totally self-insurable amount, a worthless pittance, and not worth $767 a year to me... what am I missing?
Also, ALPA loss of license, coverage $1200... what does this mean? Is the insurance payout for a loss of license just $1200? Am I really paying 50% of that, $520 a year, for just $1200 bucks?

I have all my insurance papers packed away for some renovations just now, so can't find my relevant docs... any info appreciated. I MUST be reading this wrong?

tsquare

11-11-2013 11:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Purple Drank (Post 1517638)

...just not for DALPA.

You actually had a legitimate argument going... until this ^^^^^^^^^^^^

You just want a no vote to just show the bastards. period. That is your only motive.

Purple Drank

11-11-2013 11:37 AM

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Originally Posted by tsquare (Post 1517698)

You actually had a legitimate argument going... until this ^^^^^^^^^^^^

You just want a no vote to just show the bastards. period. That is your only motive.

Not at all. It's not about me. It's about what's best for the pilot group.

The company is doing what it's supposed to, which is attempt to minimize our costs. ALPA does not do what it's supposed to do, which is fight tooth and nail on our behalf for every cent and every minute off.

herkflyr said there are times when a "no" vote is justified.

I simply stated that the DALPA has never done so...even when faced with a rushed product full of productivity giveaways. DALPA chose the path of least resistance, instead of leading the tough grind required to deliver the compensation we rate.

tsquare

11-11-2013 11:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Purple Drank (Post 1517709)

Not at all. It's not about me. It's about what's best for the pilot group, and ALPA does not deliver.

herkflyr said there are times when a "no" vote is justified.

I simply stated that the DALPA has never done so...even when faced with a rushed product full of productivity giveaways.

You are sooooo close. But.. nope. fail. sorry.

Roadkill

11-11-2013 01:23 PM

Oh yeah! Happy Veteran's Day. Thanks to all who've served, etc.!

Roadkill

11-11-2013 01:52 PM

Fed Ex-- I've been told we have a good benefit when shipping FedEx? I've been all over the Delta Perks page and can't find anything... can someone point me in the right direction? Thx

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