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Old 12-06-2013 | 06:35 AM
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Originally Posted by Ed Harley
Isn't this all good news? UsAir has been such a drag on our profession for years and they've finally caught up and past us in some areas. This should help us out next year as we move ahead to be out in front of everyone else again.

This is great. If we are still in section six in 2017-18, they top us by $40 per on the 330/767-4.

Nice bar. Thanks APA.

Personally, I'd never complain about the 4 hour penalty lap in Atlanta if we had their 1:2 after a two hour sit.


The extra cabbage in the 401k be nice too.
Old 12-06-2013 | 06:42 AM
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Originally Posted by shiznit
Populism gets old.

It definitely doesn't put more money in your pocket.
Well stated.
Old 12-06-2013 | 07:19 AM
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Quick question for the smart reserve guys. Does going to recurrent bump up your RAW score for the month? If so, how much RAW credit? Thanks in advance
Old 12-06-2013 | 07:52 AM
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Captain Ebeneezer gets a visit from his new hire partner, Captain Marley, warning him of his need to ammend his bidding ways...

Old 12-06-2013 | 09:03 AM
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Have you met either candidate? Have you compared their perspective resumes?

I have, and I have.

Does the MEC work for the Chairman or does the Chairman work for the MEC?
The Chairman works for the MEC. The committee structure works for the MEC Chairman, with the exceptions of the Merger and Negotiating Committees. Undue influence, and subversive activity is counter-productive to the business at hand within the office structure. Carrying out the wishes of the MEC body and getting the day to day tasks at hand are, and should be, two separate independent activities--while not mutually exclusive. Nobody is irreplaceable. We manage to get along just nicely without longstanding volunteers, we find that some longstanding volunteers tend to do more harm than good, and we find a way to keep swimming without short term volunteers who succumb to promises of grandeur.

How much "cleaning house" is either candidate claiming to do?
Unknown, probably to anyone other than reps. The Chairman works for the reps. Knowing both announced candidates, I suspect that they "claim" differently.

Does "coming around" and liking the Chairman become a keep/let go factor? What about job performance?
Yep and nope. Prior to KR, yep. Under KR, nope.

Populism gets old.

It definitely doesn't put more money in your pocket.
It sure does; and it sure doesn't--no matter what side of the divided fence you find yourself.
Old 12-06-2013 | 09:46 AM
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Well the World Cup groups are out. USA has a tough one. Looked at flights in June, we are showing one 767-400 from JFK, two 767-300ERs from ATL, and one 767-300ER from DTW all to Sao Paulo. I heard that we got permission for a 747. Anyone have any info about that?
Old 12-06-2013 | 10:16 AM
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Hey, saw this in the Crew Resources letter. It sounds like something the ex-commuter guys have mentioned as a terrible thing, the CDO. Can anyone explain what this means?

"73N – As with most of the narrowbody fleets, there was an increase in 30+ hour layovers. The January trip mix is similar to December. ATL, CVG, LAX and NYC will see the introduction of 8+ hour turns.
We did not purposely include or exclude any 73N category from 8+ hours turns and all bases have the potential to see 8+ hour turns in the future."

This sounds like a way to make a short FAA violating hotel stay be legal via some nomenclature use???
Thx
Old 12-06-2013 | 10:21 AM
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Ok, THIS also seems to be something ALPA needs to wade in on for sure! It looks like they're not picking us up at the terminal anymore for the new short NYC layover, we have to take the AirTrain! W T F??? This is a terrible precedent to allow, next we'll be taking the train to the hotel in SFO and PHL.

Comments anyone?
"Effective January 1, 2014, the cutoff time for short layovers for EWR/JFK/LGA will be increased to 15 hours. Any layover that is 15:01 or greater will use the long layover hotels.
Also effective January 1, there will be a change to the short JFK layover hotel. The new hotel will be the xxxxxxxx. Crews arriving JFK and staying at the xxxxxxxx should take the Airtrain to Federal Circle to meet the xxxxxxx pickup van. Departures to JFK will be dropped off by hotel van curbside at either Terminal 2 or 4.
Old 12-06-2013 | 10:27 AM
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Originally Posted by Roadkill
Hey, saw this in the Crew Resources letter. It sounds like something the ex-commuter guys have mentioned as a terrible thing, the CDO. Can anyone explain what this means?

"73N – As with most of the narrowbody fleets, there was an increase in 30+ hour layovers. The January trip mix is similar to December. ATL, CVG, LAX and NYC will see the introduction of 8+ hour turns.
We did not purposely include or exclude any 73N category from 8+ hours turns and all bases have the potential to see 8+ hour turns in the future."

This sounds like a way to make a short FAA violating hotel stay be legal via some nomenclature use???
Thx
I don't think this means CDO. Sounds like they are referring to a day turn that exceeds 8 hours hard fly. Sucks, but I predict they go senior.
Old 12-06-2013 | 10:34 AM
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Originally Posted by Roadkill
Ok, THIS also seems to be something ALPA needs to wade in on for sure! It looks like they're not picking us up at the terminal anymore for the new short NYC layover, we have to take the AirTrain! W T F??? This is a terrible precedent to allow, next we'll be taking the train to the hotel in SFO and PHL.

Comments anyone?
"Effective January 1, 2014, the cutoff time for short layovers for EWR/JFK/LGA will be increased to 15 hours. Any layover that is 15:01 or greater will use the long layover hotels.
Also effective January 1, there will be a change to the short JFK layover hotel. The new hotel will be the xxxxxxxx. Crews arriving JFK and staying at the xxxxxxxx should take the Airtrain to Federal Circle to meet the xxxxxxx pickup van. Departures to JFK will be dropped off by hotel van curbside at either Terminal 2 or 4.
Without addressing the transportation issue, which I agree with you is a very bad precedent to allow, Section 5.E.10 says that:

"A pilot scheduled for a layover of more than 12 hours (block-to-block) will receive lodging at a downtown hotel."

I don't think the company can unilaterally decide to change it to 15 hours.

But... see the "NOTE" under 5.E.10, which states:

"Exception one: Such lodging may be provided at a hotel in the vicinity of the airport if the MEC Hotel Committee has approved the use of such hotel in connection with the layover."

I guess the question is, did DALPA approve this? If they didn't, I don't see any way the change you describe is going to stick.
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