Any "Latest & Greatest" about Delta?
This is great. If we are still in section six in 2017-18, they top us by $40 per on the 330/767-4.
Nice bar. Thanks APA.
Personally, I'd never complain about the 4 hour penalty lap in Atlanta if we had their 1:2 after a two hour sit.
The extra cabbage in the 401k be nice too.
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Quick question for the smart reserve guys. Does going to recurrent bump up your RAW score for the month? If so, how much RAW credit? Thanks in advance
Captain Ebeneezer gets a visit from his new hire partner, Captain Marley, warning him of his need to ammend his bidding ways...
Have you met either candidate? Have you compared their perspective resumes?
I have, and I have.
Does the MEC work for the Chairman or does the Chairman work for the MEC?
How much "cleaning house" is either candidate claiming to do?
Does "coming around" and liking the Chairman become a keep/let go factor? What about job performance?
Populism gets old.
It definitely doesn't put more money in your pocket.
It definitely doesn't put more money in your pocket.
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Well the World Cup groups are out. USA has a tough one. Looked at flights in June, we are showing one 767-400 from JFK, two 767-300ERs from ATL, and one 767-300ER from DTW all to Sao Paulo. I heard that we got permission for a 747. Anyone have any info about that?
Hey, saw this in the Crew Resources letter. It sounds like something the ex-commuter guys have mentioned as a terrible thing, the CDO. Can anyone explain what this means?
"73N – As with most of the narrowbody fleets, there was an increase in 30+ hour layovers. The January trip mix is similar to December. ATL, CVG, LAX and NYC will see the introduction of 8+ hour turns.
We did not purposely include or exclude any 73N category from 8+ hours turns and all bases have the potential to see 8+ hour turns in the future."
This sounds like a way to make a short FAA violating hotel stay be legal via some nomenclature use???
Thx
"73N – As with most of the narrowbody fleets, there was an increase in 30+ hour layovers. The January trip mix is similar to December. ATL, CVG, LAX and NYC will see the introduction of 8+ hour turns.
We did not purposely include or exclude any 73N category from 8+ hours turns and all bases have the potential to see 8+ hour turns in the future."
This sounds like a way to make a short FAA violating hotel stay be legal via some nomenclature use???
Thx
Ok, THIS also seems to be something ALPA needs to wade in on for sure! It looks like they're not picking us up at the terminal anymore for the new short NYC layover, we have to take the AirTrain! W T F??? This is a terrible precedent to allow, next we'll be taking the train to the hotel in SFO and PHL.
Comments anyone?
"Effective January 1, 2014, the cutoff time for short layovers for EWR/JFK/LGA will be increased to 15 hours. Any layover that is 15:01 or greater will use the long layover hotels.
Also effective January 1, there will be a change to the short JFK layover hotel. The new hotel will be the xxxxxxxx. Crews arriving JFK and staying at the xxxxxxxx should take the Airtrain to Federal Circle to meet the xxxxxxx pickup van. Departures to JFK will be dropped off by hotel van curbside at either Terminal 2 or 4.
Comments anyone?
"Effective January 1, 2014, the cutoff time for short layovers for EWR/JFK/LGA will be increased to 15 hours. Any layover that is 15:01 or greater will use the long layover hotels.
Also effective January 1, there will be a change to the short JFK layover hotel. The new hotel will be the xxxxxxxx. Crews arriving JFK and staying at the xxxxxxxx should take the Airtrain to Federal Circle to meet the xxxxxxx pickup van. Departures to JFK will be dropped off by hotel van curbside at either Terminal 2 or 4.
Hey, saw this in the Crew Resources letter. It sounds like something the ex-commuter guys have mentioned as a terrible thing, the CDO. Can anyone explain what this means?
"73N – As with most of the narrowbody fleets, there was an increase in 30+ hour layovers. The January trip mix is similar to December. ATL, CVG, LAX and NYC will see the introduction of 8+ hour turns.
We did not purposely include or exclude any 73N category from 8+ hours turns and all bases have the potential to see 8+ hour turns in the future."
This sounds like a way to make a short FAA violating hotel stay be legal via some nomenclature use???
Thx
"73N – As with most of the narrowbody fleets, there was an increase in 30+ hour layovers. The January trip mix is similar to December. ATL, CVG, LAX and NYC will see the introduction of 8+ hour turns.
We did not purposely include or exclude any 73N category from 8+ hours turns and all bases have the potential to see 8+ hour turns in the future."
This sounds like a way to make a short FAA violating hotel stay be legal via some nomenclature use???
Thx
Ok, THIS also seems to be something ALPA needs to wade in on for sure! It looks like they're not picking us up at the terminal anymore for the new short NYC layover, we have to take the AirTrain! W T F??? This is a terrible precedent to allow, next we'll be taking the train to the hotel in SFO and PHL.
Comments anyone?
"Effective January 1, 2014, the cutoff time for short layovers for EWR/JFK/LGA will be increased to 15 hours. Any layover that is 15:01 or greater will use the long layover hotels.
Also effective January 1, there will be a change to the short JFK layover hotel. The new hotel will be the xxxxxxxx. Crews arriving JFK and staying at the xxxxxxxx should take the Airtrain to Federal Circle to meet the xxxxxxx pickup van. Departures to JFK will be dropped off by hotel van curbside at either Terminal 2 or 4.
Comments anyone?
"Effective January 1, 2014, the cutoff time for short layovers for EWR/JFK/LGA will be increased to 15 hours. Any layover that is 15:01 or greater will use the long layover hotels.
Also effective January 1, there will be a change to the short JFK layover hotel. The new hotel will be the xxxxxxxx. Crews arriving JFK and staying at the xxxxxxxx should take the Airtrain to Federal Circle to meet the xxxxxxx pickup van. Departures to JFK will be dropped off by hotel van curbside at either Terminal 2 or 4.
"A pilot scheduled for a layover of more than 12 hours (block-to-block) will receive lodging at a downtown hotel."
I don't think the company can unilaterally decide to change it to 15 hours.
But... see the "NOTE" under 5.E.10, which states:
"Exception one: Such lodging may be provided at a hotel in the vicinity of the airport if the MEC Hotel Committee has approved the use of such hotel in connection with the layover."
I guess the question is, did DALPA approve this? If they didn't, I don't see any way the change you describe is going to stick.
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