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Old 11-19-2013, 10:02 AM
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United Airlines parent plans $2 billion in cost cuts - chicagotribune.com

This article says United is cancelling SEA-NRT. I know ANA has been increasing service on the route, and with Delta doing SEA-NRT and SEA-HND it seems there isn't room for everyone. Seems like Delta won't have any issues filling the seats now.
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Old 11-19-2013, 10:04 AM
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Originally Posted by Gearjerk
http://airlineroute.net/2012/11/06/g3-sdqmia-dec12/
Interesting. It appears that the cabotage camel is slowly getting under the tentflap. Now another carrier has fifth freedom type rights...
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Old 11-19-2013, 10:07 AM
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Originally Posted by tsquare
Interesting. It appears that the cabotage camel is slowly getting under the tentflap. Now another carrier has fifth freedom type rights...
Well are they selling the seats between SDQ and MIA or is it a tag-on flight?
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Old 11-19-2013, 10:51 AM
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Originally Posted by tsquare
Interesting. It appears that the cabotage camel is slowly getting under the tentflap. Now another carrier has fifth freedom type rights...
Yup, three GOL 737 jets sitting there in SDQ last time I was there on the 738, one of them was going to MIA...

Aren't you glad GOL is part owned by Delta? :roll eyes:

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Old 11-19-2013, 10:54 AM
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Originally Posted by LeineLodge
Could not agree more. The big question is WHEN will DPA finally admit that they don't have the support to call the vote? If they can, they need to do it. If not, they need to go away.
From what I hear, we're getting very close.

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There's no way in hell that they have 5700 current cards. Even if that were the case, they would need to receive 15.6 renewals every day (5700/365) just to tread water. I just don't see that kind of support. More often than not, guys are like me - they filled out a card 3+ years ago and have never renewed it.
We have 5,400+ current cards. I know that disappoints you. Sorry.

Originally Posted by LeineLodge
I'd like to see a petition from Delta pilots demanding that Tim either pull the trigger or fold up his tent - by a certain date. January 1st has a nice ring to it, but I'd even be happy with April 2014 (exactly 1 year prior to C2015 openers.) I've been halfway toying with the idea of starting a petition, but don't really know how to validate signatures so it doesn't get accused of being rigged.
Good idea. You should do that. Democracy in action.

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I would like to think that if several thousand Delta pilots all signed an ultimatum that Tim would honor it. Unfortunately it would all probably just be an academic exercise, as I don't see this ever really ending until he turns 65.
I think the DPA leaders would honor it, but I'd circulate a petition to not be pressured by anyone and wait until we were assured of winning. If my petition got more votes than yours, would you honor it?

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Old 11-19-2013, 10:55 AM
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GOL is actually selling seats from MCO to SDQ. In fact, they sell seats all the way down to Brasil, Sao Paolo, etc. The flights are GOL 737's, not the Atlanta-based code share partner's planes. The future of international flying is already going to the foreign carriers whom have lower costs, whether in hourly crew rates, or ticket is sold in USD$, but the crews are paid in a cheaper local currency, like brasilian reals or chinese RMB.
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Originally Posted by contrails
Well are they selling the seats between SDQ and MIA or is it a tag-on flight?
GOL is using the SDQ "hub" to cross over pax from their SA destinations to their NA destinations, you could call it "self feed"

Its a creative approach to deal with the limitation of using a 737 fleet to do that type of flying.

(too bad they don't have a strong international ally that could help them with the long-haul routes :roll eyes

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Old 11-19-2013, 11:04 AM
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Originally Posted by Bucking Bar
There is a big difference between taking no action on a matter that does not involve a pilot's professional duties and the sort of attempt at malicious prosection the DPA is attempting.
Since you know the law as well as I do, I'm curious as to why you keep attempting this distortion. You're truly embarrassing yourself Bar. Plus you've still refused to answer my previous question to you.

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The DPA leadership is nuts enough to think this leads back to ALPA and there is something they can use for political gain. IMHO, that's the kind of politics (involving the cops) that we don't need. Pilot on pilot prosecution? Given that the DPA may be screwing the pilots' employment (Delta is hiring pilots and needs staffing) the DPA may be unwittingly picking a fight with Delta management. Delta probably does not want pilots going outside the Company to try to get other employees in trouble over a matter of union politics. Management , by law they have to deal with whoever represents the Delta pilots and does not have a dog in that fight, but if people don't come to work, then it becomes a management problem.
You're making Saul Alinsky very proud you little radical you. What a completely embarrassing and emotional tirade.

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Again, the DPA appears to be making bad decisions based on emotive reaction rather than strategic thought, JMHO.
Again, Bucking Bar displays no shame in knowing Federal law, but refusing to accurately state it in order to prop up a discredited ALPA.

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Old 11-19-2013, 11:13 AM
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I thought I saw something about them opening a Santo Domingo base. Their website doesn't have it listed on their map, but you can buy a MCO-SDQ on the website. It is cheaper to fly MCO-JFK-GRU on Delta that it is MCO-SDQ-GRU on GOL so we have that going for us.
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Old 11-19-2013, 11:32 AM
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Originally Posted by newKnow
Why is it that some people think that every milestone and anniversary in U.S. history is an opportunity to make commentary to score political points?

I understand that each event involved politicians, but sometimes it's best to appreciate things for what that mean to us as Americans beyond the political sphere.
It's more about how significant anniversaries are a time to reflect on times past. It's natural to compare and contrast the past to the present. In this case it's even more tempting because of how many have come to think of one of the most memorable presidents in our nation's history, which for most is dramatically different from the true essence of the man. Come to your own conclusions as to why this would be a shock to a majority of the population, but Kennedy had more in common with Reagan than he did the current guy. The fact that his party has changed that much since his death along the memories of his political policies being distorted due to the inconvenience of reality are enough to compel some to remark on the subject.
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