From what I hear, we're getting very close.

We have 5,400+ current cards. I know that disappoints you. Sorry.

Good idea. You should do that. Democracy in action.

I think the DPA leaders would honor it, but I'd circulate a petition to not be pressured by anyone and wait until we were assured of winning. If my petition got more votes than yours, would you honor it?

Carl

 

GOL is actually selling seats from MCO to SDQ. In fact, they sell seats all the way down to Brasil, Sao Paolo, etc. The flights are GOL 737's, not the Atlanta-based code share partner's planes. The future of international flying is already going to the foreign carriers whom have lower costs, whether in hourly crew rates, or ticket is sold in USD$, but the crews are paid in a cheaper local currency, like brasilian reals or chinese RMB.

 

GOL is using the SDQ "hub" to cross over pax from their SA destinations to their NA destinations, you could call it "self feed"

Its a creative approach to deal with the limitation of using a 737 fleet to do that type of flying.

(too bad they don't have a strong international ally that could help them with the long-haul routes :roll eyes

Cheers
George

 

Since you know the law as well as I do, I'm curious as to why you keep attempting this distortion. You're truly embarrassing yourself Bar. Plus you've still refused to answer my previous question to you.

You're making Saul Alinsky very proud you little radical you. What a completely embarrassing and emotional tirade.

Again, Bucking Bar displays no shame in knowing Federal law, but refusing to accurately state it in order to prop up a discredited ALPA.

Carl

 

I thought I saw something about them opening a Santo Domingo base. Their website doesn't have it listed on their map, but you can buy a MCO-SDQ on the website. It is cheaper to fly MCO-JFK-GRU on Delta that it is MCO-SDQ-GRU on GOL so we have that going for us.

 

It's more about how significant anniversaries are a time to reflect on times past. It's natural to compare and contrast the past to the present. In this case it's even more tempting because of how many have come to think of one of the most memorable presidents in our nation's history, which for most is dramatically different from the true essence of the man. Come to your own conclusions as to why this would be a shock to a majority of the population, but Kennedy had more in common with Reagan than he did the current guy. The fact that his party has changed that much since his death along the memories of his political policies being distorted due to the inconvenience of reality are enough to compel some to remark on the subject.

 

Purple,

This should be clear among any one of us who are members in a union. A union's job is like the job of your attorney. Your attorney's job is to get you out of trouble. Even if the attorney knows you are guilty as sin, it is their job to advocate for you. We could not trust a union Rep, or attorney, if we feared they would make a judgement call and throw us under the bus. It is better that a member always knows where their union stands.

Every member, every represented pilot, should feel they can be honest with their representatives (and if you're in trouble they can serve you better when they know the truth) and that those representatives will act with the pilot's best interest foremost. That's the definition of a "fiduciary duty" and our union has that duty in favor of it's pilots.

Hope it is clear why the DPA's proposed action bothers me. ... Pilots come to them, confess to an error, and the DPA wants to hang 'em.

If the DPA wanted to score points, this would have been an opportunity to take the moral high ground to state "yes, some enthusiastic ALPA supporters did XXX to our web site. They apologized and we are working with them because first and foremost they are Delta pilots. If you choose our representation we will work for you ... (blah blah)"

I've been a vocal advocate for ALPA. Does this mean if I filed an ASAP for a deviation the DPA would check out my name and reply "FO Bucking deviated from his clearance, thus violating Federal Regulation. We have reported the matter to the FAA and sought appropriate enforcement action."

I don't think that's what you, or anyone, wants.

 

Dunno, but I am suspect of this fire ready aim business.

Saturday (the day it allegedly happened) we get a Go Team email asking for money and that the "content of our site has not been hacked, only where the address takes you" strongly imply malware and says "the ALPA "Special Committee" is clearly responsible" and encourages going off dues check-off and giving money to DPA.

- Definitively states ALPA did it, definitively says Special Committee did it, stongly suggests "malicious content" asks for more money

Sunday (day after) we get another Go Team email asking for money and that "we have defeated the initially successful attempt to redirect our site to a clone site" strongly imply malware again. "The site is secure and functioning properly. Again, our site was not compromised internally." and "The hijacking was simply a redirecting of our URL to a hostile site that asked the reader to support ALPA"

- Definitively states "ALPA stepping up the attack", strongly suggests "malicious content" asks for more money.

Wednesday Go Team email asking for money "DPA is viewing this attack as simply a momentary distraction" and to "take the long view" "especially if fellow Delta Pilots are involved" "there really has been no negative impact on our campaign"

- Now suggests they don't know if it's ALPA or Delta pilots but a post on the other forum says that Caplinger emailed a guy and said it was not DALPA but ALPA "Fine point, but important" and they ask for more money.

Thursday in a status report asking for more money they mention a lawsuit and that they need more money

- no real hacking update just a request for money

Friday in a crew van news "the redirect of our url simply broke the link to our account" and "no data was compromised" and "if it is a Delta Pilot, should we prosecute or forgive or forget?"

Monday (yesterday) claims that someone called Caplinger the exact same day as the last crew van news. DPA then claims that the hack was a social engineering ploy and gained access using personal information while saying you need "considerable technical expertise" to social engineer account access and starts to blame ALPA and the DALPA Special Committee all over again again and then asks for more money.

Summary (DPA) It was really ALPA, then it was really the Special Committee, then it was really ALPA again, but not really DALPA, then it was really a person "claiming to be "pro-ALPA Delta Pilots" and may really have been ALPA again or really the Special Committee again but we don't really know as they only said they were pro-ALPA (but could have been pro-DPA last week or anti-union the week before) and put it all out before we gather any evidence or information but could really do with some money while the FBI figures out if it's a crime to have lost some funds when we already told you the "the redirect of our url simply broke the link to our account" which may have just been an accident as we also told you "The site is secure and functioning properly. Again, our site was not compromised internally" and could we really have some more money again....

I don't know what domain hosting service Caplinger uses, but I'd be asking them for a refund (lack of security) and their help in tracking down the culprit(s) if they really exist and then deciding what to do instead of throwing spaghetti around to see what sticks all the while asking for even more money every other breath and then present the facts.

Would anyone really have noticed if an update hadn't been sent out? Almost no one ever posts on the DPA forums. There's nothing there that isn't emailed to us. It's not like we log in daily to see the latest from the Sol and Jerry show. Much like the new forum it's simply an ALPA bash with zero pro-Delta pilot discussion. It's all negative, anti-ALPA talk. You want in? Show me better. It's easy to criticize, empathize and promise. It's hard to make it happen. I look forward to the "definitive" FBI report that contradicts the rest of these contradictory updates.

 

New,
Not trying to score any "political points". Just find todays idea of a federal government as intrusive and wrought with political favoritism and featherbedding. One of the Democrats Idols, JFK, would be considered a radical conservative by todays standards.
If I were king for a day, I would institute two time term limits for ANY voted in office from union president to US President and all positions in between. Someone needs to be concerned about the future of the US, and not just getting reelected.
LUV

 

Thanks for taking the time to post that account. Most of us have no idea what the DPA sends out to those on their list.

By the DPA's standards, ALPA would have a libel case. Of course ALPA is unlikely to do anything of the sort. But a legal distinction could be made between the DPA, as a Corporate Entity, and the pilots who created it. ALPA has a duty to the pilots, but could sue the DPA (if inclined to waste time on the effort).

Guess this is good experience. Previously I had a poor understanding of what it is like to be a pilot at US Air.