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Old 11-20-2013 | 10:40 AM
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Originally Posted by LeineLodge
This is my understanding as well. The gouge is to only APD 1 day of a rotation, and it will drop the whole thing (if there is sufficient coverage, and you meet all the holiday period criteria in the PWA.) Then you can pick up on the other couple days if you need to find some time. Any date that has APD on it is a HARD day off (like VAC) and you cannot put anything there.

To answer your question, you can PD the whole thing, and then WS/GS on any of those days - it's as if they were off days or X days for a RSV pilot. I've never tried it, but I would guess that the PD works like an APD (which I have dropped like this) in that you can only PD one day of the rotation and the whole thing will drop, subject to coverage. It's not as big of a deal with the PD though, because you can pick back up on a PD day.

**I'm 99% sure this is all right, but I have been wrong more times than not. If you really want to be sure you can call 1-800-USA-ALPA and they will be able to tell you in a heartbeat. Put your dues $ to work!

LL,

You are correct. The only drop days that you can not pick up on are the actual days that the APD (and APD only) touches, not all the days of the pairing.

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Old 11-20-2013 | 10:58 AM
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Originally Posted by LeineLodge
This is my understanding as well. The gouge is to only APD 1 day of a rotation, and it will drop the whole thing (if there is sufficient coverage, and you meet all the holiday period criteria in the PWA.) Then you can pick up on the other couple days if you need to find some time. Any date that has APD on it is a HARD day off (like VAC) and you cannot put anything there.

To answer your question, you can PD the whole thing, and then WS/GS on any of those days - it's as if they were off days or X days for a RSV pilot. I've never tried it, but I would guess that the PD works like an APD (which I have dropped like this) in that you can only PD one day of the rotation and the whole thing will drop, subject to coverage. It's not as big of a deal with the PD though, because you can pick back up on a PD day.

**I'm 99% sure this is all right, but I have been wrong more times than not. If you really want to be sure you can call 1-800-USA-ALPA and they will be able to tell you in a heartbeat. Put your dues $ to work!
I learned one advantage of an APD. You can APD a carryout trip before the next bid month is run. With a PD, the next bid has to be out before you can PD.
Old 11-20-2013 | 11:00 AM
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Originally Posted by CVG767A
So, IOW, the fat guys get to go out early on long term disability.

Yes-- Yes, I would like fries with that.
Yee haw! A .gov early out program. I didn't think of it that way.

Supersize those fries.
Old 11-20-2013 | 11:33 AM
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Originally Posted by tsquare
Yee haw! A .gov early out program. I didn't think of it that way.

Supersize those fries.
T, your next batch of fries are on me!
Old 11-20-2013 | 12:13 PM
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Originally Posted by tsquare
Yee haw! A .gov early out program. I didn't think of it that way.

Supersize those fries.
Guess it was good I did that cycle class this morning. Will Delta pay us more if we workout?
Old 11-20-2013 | 12:39 PM
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Originally Posted by DAL 88 Driver
T, your next batch of fries are on me!
Yeah I'll bet they are. I don't eat much fried food at all actually.... yuck.
Old 11-20-2013 | 01:03 PM
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Originally Posted by DAL 88 Driver
Well in this case, I had the wrong person. Apparently, NERD and I have never met. My bad.

But I have flown with several F/O's who are on this board... no secret underboob hand signals were needed to figure it out...
And you flew old Carl once to ATL.

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Old 11-20-2013 | 01:04 PM
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Originally Posted by contrails
While non-revving out of NGO a couple weeks ago on the 744, three pilots walked up and greeted the agents, and then the fourth came up a couple minutes later...he just looked a little...off.



I had to wonder...

Could it be...?


Hey...I was unavoidably detained.

Carl
Old 11-20-2013 | 01:15 PM
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Originally Posted by LeineLodge
Nice!

I have found that guys that want to be found out, usually will make it obvious - in this camp I've met George, Bar, ACL, Shiznit, and a handful of others.

Every once in awhile I'll come across one that just flat out gives himself away without realizing (PilotFrog, paging PilotFrog ) It was the TCU phone case and his presence in a certain location that he had just mentioned on this thread that outed him. As with every Delta pilot I run into from this thread, it was great to put a face with the (screen)name.

In all fairness, I always introduce myself as LeineLodge after I figure out who someone is. Fair is fair. Makes this place a little more interesting too if you know you could be held accountable for what you write.
I've met a number of the crazies around here as well... and if someone figures it out (like volav8r did in about 45 seconds a few weeks back), I won't deny my inner Clampage. It's always neat putting faces to names.
Old 11-20-2013 | 01:19 PM
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I guess the PCS runs are still going rather slow. I put in a number of things just before 5 and... nada.
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