Any "Latest & Greatest" about Delta?
11-23-2013 | 11:03 AM
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11-23-2013 | 03:47 PM
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Does anyone think the fact that 46 Furloughees recently resigned might make a difference one way or another in the next section 6.
On one hand, guys generally did not resign from DAL in the past. While a great place to work, it ain't what it used to be.
On the other hand, guys are lining up by the thousands to get hired.
Food for thought.
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On one hand, guys generally did not resign from DAL in the past. While a great place to work, it ain't what it used to be.
On the other hand, guys are lining up by the thousands to get hired.
Food for thought.
Scoop
11-23-2013 | 04:05 PM
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Does anyone think the fact that 46 Furloughees recently resigned might make a difference one way or another in the next section 6.
On one hand, guys generally did not resign from DAL in the past. While a great place to work, it ain't what it used to be.
On the other hand, guys are lining up by the thousands to get hired.
Food for thought.
Scoop
On one hand, guys generally did not resign from DAL in the past. While a great place to work, it ain't what it used to be.
On the other hand, guys are lining up by the thousands to get hired.
Food for thought.
Scoop
11-23-2013 | 04:10 PM
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Imho, it doesn't matter. We are just a cost item on the balance sheet. As much as some want to believe we are valued "partners", we are not. Management looks at us a as any other cost to be managed, no more and no less than the cost of peanuts, cokes, etc. Don't take it personal, it's just business.
Does anyone think the fact that 46 Furloughees recently resigned might make a difference one way or another in the next section 6.
On one hand, guys generally did not resign from DAL in the past. While a great place to work, it ain't what it used to be.
On the other hand, guys are lining up by the thousands to get hired.
Food for thought.
Scoop
On one hand, guys generally did not resign from DAL in the past. While a great place to work, it ain't what it used to be.
On the other hand, guys are lining up by the thousands to get hired.
Food for thought.
Scoop
11-23-2013 | 05:26 PM
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Does anyone think the fact that 46 Furloughees recently resigned might make a difference one way or another in the next section 6.
On one hand, guys generally did not resign from DAL in the past. While a great place to work, it ain't what it used to be.
On the other hand, guys are lining up by the thousands to get hired.
Food for thought.
Scoop
On one hand, guys generally did not resign from DAL in the past. While a great place to work, it ain't what it used to be.
On the other hand, guys are lining up by the thousands to get hired.
Food for thought.
Scoop
11-23-2013 | 05:30 PM
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You honestly think guys were furloughed for a week or a month? Wow.
11-23-2013 | 05:35 PM
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I was fortunate to never have been furloughed. However, what I don't know are the specific dates of each furlough (without research) and the respective bypasses by each person within those dates.
You changed your post after I quoted it. No, I never thought anyone was just furloughed for a week or a month. I was using extreme time spans to make the point that people moved on. Even after rereading my post I don't know how you took it any other way.
11-23-2013 | 05:44 PM
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Buzz,
I was fortunate to never have been furloughed. However, what I don't know are the specific dates of each furlough (without research) and the respective bypasses by each person within those dates.
You changed your post after I quoted it. No, I never thought anyone was just furloughed for a week or a month. I was using extreme time spans to make the point that people moved on.
I was fortunate to never have been furloughed. However, what I don't know are the specific dates of each furlough (without research) and the respective bypasses by each person within those dates.
You changed your post after I quoted it. No, I never thought anyone was just furloughed for a week or a month. I was using extreme time spans to make the point that people moved on.
It was long and ugly. I was one of the first 400 furloughed after 9/11. We furloughed at least another 800-1000. The shortest was about 5 years. We had at least one guy commit suicide. And we had guys green slipping during that duration. Hard times for all I know but lots of fraternal love was lost.
Sure, guys have moved on but I guarantee you that almost nobody counted on getting hired at DAL and being on the street shortly thereafter. I had several gigs post furlough and wanted to come back. I don't begrudge anybody who was cut loose for five plus years for finding something else to provide for them and their families.
11-23-2013 | 05:57 PM
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Scambo,
It was long and ugly. I was one of the first 400 furloughed after 9/11. We furloughed at least another 800-1000. The shortest was about 5 years. We had at least one guy commit suicide. And we had guys green slipping during that duration. Hard times for all I know but lots of fraternal love was lost.
Sure, guys have moved on but I guarantee you that almost nobody counted on getting hired at DAL and being on the street shortly thereafter. I had several gigs post furlough and wanted to come back. I don't begrudge anybody who was cut loose for five plus years for finding something else to provide for them and their families.
It was long and ugly. I was one of the first 400 furloughed after 9/11. We furloughed at least another 800-1000. The shortest was about 5 years. We had at least one guy commit suicide. And we had guys green slipping during that duration. Hard times for all I know but lots of fraternal love was lost.
Sure, guys have moved on but I guarantee you that almost nobody counted on getting hired at DAL and being on the street shortly thereafter. I had several gigs post furlough and wanted to come back. I don't begrudge anybody who was cut loose for five plus years for finding something else to provide for them and their families.
However, if there is a reason why/how a pilots resignation would affect future negotiations, I'd like to know what they are.
11-23-2013 | 06:00 PM
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Buzz,
I was fortunate to never have been furloughed. However, what I don't know are the specific dates of each furlough (without research) and the respective bypasses by each person within those dates.
You changed your post after I quoted it. No, I never thought anyone was just furloughed for a week or a month. I was using extreme time spans to make the point that people moved on. Even after rereading my post I don't know how you took it any other way.
I was fortunate to never have been furloughed. However, what I don't know are the specific dates of each furlough (without research) and the respective bypasses by each person within those dates.
You changed your post after I quoted it. No, I never thought anyone was just furloughed for a week or a month. I was using extreme time spans to make the point that people moved on. Even after rereading my post I don't know how you took it any other way.
You're a good dude but the fact that you don't know who and for how long your fellow pilots were furloughed is indicative of what's wrong with our pilot group. There shouldn't be a single Delta pilot who doesn't understand how many and for how long we put guys on the street. Is that an ALPA problem or a Delta pilot culture problem? We hire guys, kick them to the curb, guys green slip (not implying you did of course) and can't recount why and how? There's no "fraternal" there. That's despicable. That's a problem. F the junior guys, what's in it for me?
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