Any "Latest & Greatest" about Delta?
06-19-2013 | 10:54 PM
Da Hudge
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No, just curious. I dodged the weather last week in the SE as well. We went around for a windshear alert, held and changed runways, and had our auto throttles go full idle at cruise dodging t storms. It was an angry sky. Just curious what the 88 guys can see. Our radar on the older -800s is good. The newer version is great. Shows turbulence and shafts much more cleaner.
Yes, folks.... it can be just like the simulator.
That being said, the prior DL flight kind of hung us out to dry. They went from very specific reports of light turbulence and heavy rain to "eh... it was ok... we got in" by the time they landed. That could have turned out much worse than it did.
There is no loss of pride in being the first one to call uncle! I am not that thrilled about being one of the few people to have experienced and recovered from a full windshear warning and perform the recovery just like in the sim in real life.
The most amazing thing was the ASA flight behind us saying "we'll take a look."
They also got to experience it... but why??
06-19-2013 | 11:01 PM
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It's from a lame Kia car commercial that featured hamsters. My avatar is the stoned drummer hamster from one of the commercials. Doo Dah Dippity was their catch phrase. It's simple. Noting ethereal behind it. I'm so immature that I found the commercials funny. Hip hop hamsters. My wife and my kids don't get it either. I was also Charlie Sheen for awhile, if you recall.
06-19-2013 | 11:12 PM
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It's from a lame Kia car commercial that featured hamsters. My avatar is the stoned drummer hamster from one of the commercials. Doo Dah Dippity was their catch phrase. It's simple. Noting ethereal behind it. I'm so immature that I found the commercials funny. Hip hop hamsters. My wife and my kids don't get it either. I was also Charlie Sheen for awhile, if you recall.
06-19-2013 | 11:15 PM
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I just finished my ASAP report for a full on windshear warning the other evening.
Yes, folks.... it can be just like the simulator.
That being said, the prior DL flight kind of hung us out to dry. They went from very specific reports of light turbulence and heavy rain to "eh... it was ok... we got in" by the time they landed. That could have turned out much worse than it did.
There is no loss of pride in being the first one to call uncle! I am not that thrilled about being one of the few people to have experienced and recovered from a full windshear warning and perform the recovery just like in the sim in real life.
The most amazing thing was the ASA flight behind us saying "we'll take a look."
They also got to experience it... but why??
Yes, folks.... it can be just like the simulator.
That being said, the prior DL flight kind of hung us out to dry. They went from very specific reports of light turbulence and heavy rain to "eh... it was ok... we got in" by the time they landed. That could have turned out much worse than it did.
There is no loss of pride in being the first one to call uncle! I am not that thrilled about being one of the few people to have experienced and recovered from a full windshear warning and perform the recovery just like in the sim in real life.
The most amazing thing was the ASA flight behind us saying "we'll take a look."
They also got to experience it... but why??
06-19-2013 | 11:21 PM
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The ASA flight behind us on that first attempt, as well as another on the second go at it (when all of us were pulling out and going to wait) decided to go take a look. Guess what happened to them?
"yeah we got a 20 or 30 knot loss in airspeed."
No shame in calling uncle!
06-19-2013 | 11:27 PM
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No kidding... I'm most of the time the first guy to call uncle, but this one was a gray area and we were the first to get bit.
The ASA flight behind us on that first attempt, as well as another on the second go at it (when all of us were pulling out and going to wait) decided to go take a look. Guess what happened to them?
"yeah we got a 20 or 30 knot loss in airspeed."
No shame in calling uncle!
The ASA flight behind us on that first attempt, as well as another on the second go at it (when all of us were pulling out and going to wait) decided to go take a look. Guess what happened to them?
"yeah we got a 20 or 30 knot loss in airspeed."
No shame in calling uncle!
06-19-2013 | 11:37 PM
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That flight was probably both the most proud I've ever been with my airmanship as well as the most upset that I've been with my airmanship.
A lack of assertiveness due to prior traffic reports helped me get the plane in that position in the first place. I could see the weather was getting worse... The one thing I will never forgive myself for is not calling uncle earlier. Even more amazing was hearing other airlines continue to want to go take a look after us!
06-19-2013 | 11:38 PM
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TWA 800 was going from JFK to Paris (CDG), and yes there would have been no need for center tank fuel on that short of a flight. The center tank has a scavenge pump, but even with that you can never get all of the liquid fuel out of that tank.
When you say "ignite", to you mean catch fire - or explode? And was the tank sealed or vented?
Carl
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06-19-2013 | 11:47 PM
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As I've gotten older, I've gotten less and less upset about the weather... for one single reason: I've learned how to avoid it.
That flight was probably both the most proud I've ever been with my airmanship as well as the most upset that I've been with my airmanship.
I flew the windshear escape and recovery with the most precision I've ever flown an airplane... but a lack of assertiveness due to prior traffic reports helped me get the plane in that position in the first place. I could see the weather was getting worse... The one thing I will never forgive myself for is not calling uncle earlier. Even more amazing was hearing other airlines continue to want to go take a look after us!
That flight was probably both the most proud I've ever been with my airmanship as well as the most upset that I've been with my airmanship.
I flew the windshear escape and recovery with the most precision I've ever flown an airplane... but a lack of assertiveness due to prior traffic reports helped me get the plane in that position in the first place. I could see the weather was getting worse... The one thing I will never forgive myself for is not calling uncle earlier. Even more amazing was hearing other airlines continue to want to go take a look after us!
06-19-2013 | 11:52 PM
Da Hudge
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TWA 800 was going from JFK to Paris (CDG), and yes there would have been no need for center tank fuel on that short of a flight. The center tank has a scavenge pump, but even with that you can never get all of the liquid fuel out of that tank.
When you say "ignite", to you mean catch fire - or explode? And was the tank sealed or vented?
Carl
When you say "ignite", to you mean catch fire - or explode? And was the tank sealed or vented?
Carl
Most aircraft I have flown have scavenge pumps, but they are venturi effect (i.e. motive flow) only. I'm sure there are a few classic whale guys on here who can speak to what sort of functionality they have... anyone?
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