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Old 01-29-2014 | 07:18 AM
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Originally Posted by unit monster
How exhausting is your rhetoric, Buzz?
No more exhausting than the "rhetoric" of high temps are global warming, low temps are global warming. Hurricanes are global warming. Blizzards are global warming. Everything it global warming, caused by carbon, and the solution is for the US to reduce carbon at any cost so the "emerging markets/developing world" can burn even more carbon because they are entitled to while at the same time slashing and burning irreplaceable rainforrests and driving species to the brink of extinction because they actually think you can make magic potions out of horns.
Old 01-29-2014 | 07:21 AM
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Originally Posted by forgot to bid
Loved Alf, the unwound tape and the kid Deltalina. Well done.
Yeah Alf was great and the kid Deltalina wasa awesome. Took a few seconds to get it, but it was worth it.




thats what she said
Old 01-29-2014 | 07:27 AM
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Originally Posted by TCMC17RES
My wife's Odyssey is our weapon of choice every weekend to the local ski area. With Bridgestone Blizzaks it climbs through packed snow and ice like it's summer. I don't think it's the car, it's the tires. I love my Cummins diesel, but the van gets it done every time. Just sayin...
The tires on your car are night and day the single most important factor in driving on snow and ice. They are also the most overlooked.
Old 01-29-2014 | 07:36 AM
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Originally Posted by Scoop
Look on your rotation. It has a pay report time and a actual report time. If you show up in the lobby for P/U at a specified time I think that would be the actual report time.

If you are delayed three hours it would seem to me that your duty period clock would be ticking the whole time.

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If 117 is the same as 121, FAA doesn't consider you "on duty" until you are at the airport and at the designated time. If Delta catches you before you leave the hotel, you're not on duty. If you show up at the airport early of your own doing (commuter, didn't stay at the hotel, etc.) same thing.

You always have the fatigue card to play, but be careful declaring yourself on duty for FAR purposes. It may not be the same as PWA. Use the contract definitions for contractual rules, FAA definitions for 117 limits.
Old 01-29-2014 | 07:48 AM
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Originally Posted by Dirtdiver
If 117 is the same as 121, FAA doesn't consider you "on duty" until you are at the airport and at the designated time. If Delta catches you before you leave the hotel, you're not on duty. If you show up at the airport early of your own doing (commuter, didn't stay at the hotel, etc.) same thing.

You always have the fatigue card to play, but be careful declaring yourself on duty for FAR purposes. It may not be the same as PWA. Use the contract definitions for contractual rules, FAA definitions for 117 limits.
Please everyone take a break from the forum and read FAR117. It covers this and it's not the same as part121.
Old 01-29-2014 | 07:53 AM
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Originally Posted by SFWB
Anyone up and about this morning? I left home at 4:45 AM to start short call at 530. Yikes. Roads in tn and ga are terrible. How's Atlanta? I'm in cartersville on 75 at the Cracker Barrel.
I just saw a news report. It looks like I-75 is blocked in places.
Old 01-29-2014 | 07:57 AM
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Originally Posted by dalad
Get rid of that X5 before it comes off warranty. I've had it with BMW!
Ha. We will. It drives great when it works!
Old 01-29-2014 | 08:06 AM
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Originally Posted by sailingfun
Please everyone take a break from the forum and read FAR117. It covers this and it's not the same as part121.


I think that is what I said.


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Old 01-29-2014 | 08:08 AM
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Originally Posted by Timbo
I was curious to see if our DXB and JNB flights got out last night. They both departed, with only about 130 pax, but both pushed very late, and then they both taxied for about 1.5-2hrs before getting airborne. There couldn't have been that much traffic going out at 10-11pm, was there a lineup for the deice pad?

The DXB didn't get off the ground until 02:30! Yikes!
ATL-DXB DAL 8, en route departed 2:30 am, ETA 12:00 am GST

ATL-JNB DAL 200, departed 8:30, arrived 6:33 SAST
Old 01-29-2014 | 08:10 AM
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...in regards to the operation out there in ATL?

Media is showing iPhone video from stuck reporters on freeways amid abandoned cars and trucks.

Can't imagine crews are getting to or from downtown on layovers or in from their homes.

Snow and ice + 117 + reduced de-ice rate + likely lack of crews = ? Green-a-geddon?

Sunny, 77 in PHX today, however, we are going to pay for it come June.
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