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NERD 02-20-2011 04:28 AM

I think you have to talk to a scheduler. The automated is just fishing for takers I believe. Hopefully someone like ftb or acl will see this.



Originally Posted by ilinipilot (Post 950821)
please help
I just got off of IOE and my phone rang this morning, from delta crew. I answered it and it was an automated message about inverse assignments. I then hung up, am I now junior manned, or do you have to talk to a scheduler to be inverse assigned.thanks


bluejuice71 02-20-2011 04:51 AM

Delta & Air France-KLM considering bid for Virgin Atlantic?

iFlyer 02-20-2011 05:34 AM


Originally Posted by bluejuice71 (Post 950832)
Delta & Air France-KLM considering bid for Virgin Atlantic?

...to join SkyTeam Alliance

Columbia 02-20-2011 05:39 AM


Originally Posted by Carl Spackler (Post 950247)
She's a beauty...ain't she.

Carl

Talk about Shiny Jet Syndrome.

BlueMoon 02-20-2011 06:15 AM

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FmrFreightDog 02-20-2011 06:35 AM


Originally Posted by ilinipilot (Post 950821)
please help
I just got off of IOE and my phone rang this morning, from delta crew. I answered it and it was an automated message about inverse assignments. I then hung up, am I now junior manned, or do you have to talk to a scheduler to be inverse assigned.thanks

If you didn't talk to someone and were not on reserve when you got called, you're fine.

bluejuice71 02-20-2011 06:46 AM


Originally Posted by iFlyer (Post 950841)
...to join SkyTeam Alliance

Thanks. That makes more sense.

ilinipilot 02-20-2011 07:04 AM

thank you very much for the prompt responses

PilotFrog 02-20-2011 07:20 AM

Jetstar Offering In-Flight iPad Rentals

This sounds like a good idea to me. Who wants to go in a JV with me, and go to Delta with this plan?

LeineLodge 02-20-2011 08:36 AM

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When are the PCS runs? I thought it was 7am, noon, and 6pm Mecca time.

Are swap-with-the-pot requests processed at these same times? I got a WS during the early PCS run, but my swap wasn't even processed. Am I missing something?

Do they always run right at the scheduled times, or does it vary day to day? I figured the noon run would have happened by now, but it's 12:35 here in ATL.

Thanks in advance:confused:

Jabberwock 02-20-2011 08:37 AM


MIAMI -- Authorities say a Delta plane's engine failed in mid-air over Florida, forcing the flight to make an emergency landing.

Broward County Aviation Department spokesman Greg Meyer said Sunday that several pieces of what appears to be the damaged engine were recovered from near the highway that runs alongside the Fort Lauderdale airport.

No injuries were reported. It was not immediately clear what caused the engine failure.

Meyer says the plane landed safely Sunday morning and the 140 passengers headed for Minneapolis are being rebooked on other flights.

Federal Aviation Administration spokeswoman Kathleen Bergen says a safety inspector is headed to the scene to determine what happened.

A Delta spokesperson could not immediately be reached for comment.
Anyone know which flight?

Bucking Bar 02-20-2011 08:39 AM

Source:AvHearald.com

A Delta Airlines Boeing 737-800, flight DL-1846 from Fort Lauderdale,FL to Minneapolis,MN (USA) with 140 passengers, was climbing out of Fort Lauderdale's runway 09L when the crew reported the failure of the left hand engine and levelled off at 3000 feet. An aircraft waiting for departure reported seeing parts dropping off the aircraft prompting the tower to order a runway inspection with nothing found on the runway. The Delta Boeing returned to Fort Lauderdale's runway 09L for a safe landing about 17 minutes after departure and vacated the runway.

Runway 09L was closed for about 10 minutes.

Aircraft parts were found near the Port Everglades Cargo Entry Point.

Witnesses on the ground reported a huge bang from the engine following by parts dropping off the aircraft.

buzzpat 02-20-2011 09:22 AM


Originally Posted by Bucking Bar (Post 950926)
Source:AvHearald.com

A Delta Airlines Boeing 737-800, flight DL-1846 from Fort Lauderdale,FL to Minneapolis,MN (USA) with 140 passengers, was climbing out of Fort Lauderdale's runway 09L when the crew reported the failure of the left hand engine and levelled off at 3000 feet. An aircraft waiting for departure reported seeing parts dropping off the aircraft prompting the tower to order a runway inspection with nothing found on the runway. The Delta Boeing returned to Fort Lauderdale's runway 09L for a safe landing about 17 minutes after departure and vacated the runway.

Runway 09L was closed for about 10 minutes.

Aircraft parts were found near the Port Everglades Cargo Entry Point.

Witnesses on the ground reported a huge bang from the engine following by parts dropping off the aircraft.

The CA was NYC-based and the FO is an LAX buddy of mine. He's our FO MEC Rep out here. Great job guys!

KC10 FATboy 02-20-2011 09:33 AM


Originally Posted by chuck416 (Post 950699)
+1....No Doubt. NWA must've bought all the fleet's paint at a Sherman-Williams close-out sale. Most of our old stuff was ugly as a bowling shoe. Current scheme is far better

Call me crazy, I really liked the last Northwest livery. The metallic silver is very nice. In fact, I wish Delta would keep the current livery, but change the pale boring white to the NWA metallic silver.

buzzpat 02-20-2011 09:50 AM


Originally Posted by KC10 FATboy (Post 950963)
Call me crazy, I really liked the last Northwest livery. The metallic silver is very nice. In fact, I wish Delta would keep the current livery, but change the pale boring white to the NWA metallic silver.

OK, you're crazy.

gloopy 02-20-2011 10:59 AM


Originally Posted by FlyingViking (Post 950743)
Is it true that they put the Delta logo that high up in order to fit "connection" underneath it?

No that's the dedicated real estate for that fake airline "skyteam" air group nonsense.

johnso29 02-20-2011 11:07 AM


Originally Posted by LeineLodge (Post 950923)
When are the PCS runs? I thought it was 7am, noon, and 6pm Mecca time.

Are swap-with-the-pot requests processed at these same times? I got a WS during the early PCS run, but my swap wasn't even processed. Am I missing something?

Do they always run right at the scheduled times, or does it vary day to day? I figured the noon run would have happened by now, but it's 12:35 here in ATL.

Thanks in advance:confused:


They must have ran them because I was trying a Swap with the pot, & the trips are gone. I didn't get either of them.

Rudder 02-20-2011 11:30 AM

you can find out by pulling up your swap request and then selecting "deny" on the bottom, I think it is F4, it will tell you when the swap was ran and why you did not get it.

RockyBoy 02-20-2011 12:20 PM


Originally Posted by iFlyer (Post 950841)
...to join SkyTeam Alliance

I think there is more to the story than getting them to just join the SkyTeam Alliance. Could they be bought and operated independently within the AF/KLM group like KLM has been since AF bought them? When we hire Goldman Sachs as an advisor, there is more going on than a JV and getting another airline to join the Alliance.

LeineLodge 02-20-2011 12:35 PM


Originally Posted by RockyBoy (Post 951077)
I think there is more to the story than getting them to just join the SkyTeam Alliance. Could they be bought and operated independently within the AF/KLM group like KLM has been since AF bought them? When we hire Goldman Sachs as an advisor, there is more going on than a JV and getting another airline to join the Alliance.

If what you're hinting at is even possible, we should be very concerned. Where is this posted that Delta/AF/KLM are looking at VA? I'd like to read a little more about this?

Is there a hole in our scope section that would/could allow this situation or would DALPA have to sign off on a VA JV/Codeshare?

LeineLodge 02-20-2011 12:38 PM


Originally Posted by LeineLodge (Post 951090)
If what you're hinting at is even possible, we should be very concerned. Where is this posted that Delta/AF/KLM are looking at VA? I'd like to read a little more about this?

Is there a hole in our scope section that would/could allow this situation or would DALPA have to sign off on a VA JV/Codeshare?

I just re-read the first post on this topic, and saw that it is Virgin Atlantic, not Virgin America. I'm a little relieved, as I was envisioning this as an attack on domestic narrowbody flying, especially out west.

Still not sure about a JV with Virgin Atlantic. I guess the idea would be to gain more of a presence in London???

RockyBoy 02-20-2011 12:40 PM


Originally Posted by LeineLodge (Post 951090)
If what you're hinting at is even possible, we should be very concerned. Where is this posted that Delta/AF/KLM are looking at VA? I'd like to read a little more about this?

Is there a hole in our scope section that would/could allow this situation or would DALPA have to sign off on a VA JV/Codeshare?

Bloomberg reported it this morning.

Air France, Delta Consider Bid for Virgin Atlantic, Times Says - Bloomberg

RockyBoy 02-20-2011 12:42 PM


Originally Posted by LeineLodge (Post 951091)
I just re-read the first post on this topic, and saw that it is Virgin Atlantic, not Virgin America. I'm a little relieved, as I was envisioning this as an attack on domestic narrowbody flying, especially out west.

Still not sure about a JV with Virgin Atlantic. I guess the idea would be to gain more of a presence in London???

It is to compete against the AA/BA JV that was approved. It's been in the news for awhile, but not quite like it was worded this morning. I was thinking to see a JV, but when we hire Goldman there is more than a JV going on.

iceman49 02-20-2011 12:51 PM


Originally Posted by LeineLodge (Post 951090)
If what you're hinting at is even possible, we should be very concerned. Where is this posted that Delta/AF/KLM are looking at VA? I'd like to read a little more about this?

Is there a hole in our scope section that would/could allow this situation or would DALPA have to sign off on a VA JV/Codeshare?

Most scope protection is not worth the paper it's written on, unfortunately we seem to be always in a position of trying to decide what works or does not work...what may be good now, may go poorly against us in the future.
All Delta flying should be done by Delta pilots, how much are we going to lose with a VA JV.

buzzpat 02-20-2011 01:12 PM


Originally Posted by RockyBoy (Post 951092)

I've been saying this for years, and I think ACL has as well,....we're ALL gonna be Air France one day. Which, I suppose, means we can break out the berets and stop taking showers.

RockyBoy 02-20-2011 01:22 PM


Originally Posted by buzzpat (Post 951113)
I've been saying this for years, and I think ACL has as well,....we're ALL gonna be Air France one day. Which, I suppose, means we can break out the berets and stop taking showers.

I've said it as well and I think with the pace of JV's and the globalization of our industry, we would be better off to be employed by SkyTeam and have ALL pilots that fly JV flights be on one list and under one contract.

The biggest hurdle to that is foreign ownership rules which will be gone within the decade. Once they are gone it's a matter of a few regulation changes in regards to licensing and some agreements with other governments on right to work and we could all be on one list and under one contract.

RunFast 02-20-2011 01:43 PM

Engine Failure?
 
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shiznit 02-20-2011 01:44 PM

We have transatlantic JV scope protections with the AF/KLM pilots, and as such it would take 3-4 different courts to overturn the JV protections we enjoy currently.

It actually would give us a good bit of leverage if V-Atl. came into skyteam and DL/AFKL wanted them in on the trans-atlantic JV. time will tell.

I'm with Buzzpat: berets, no showers, and good red wine for DAL pilots in 10 years! I agree that foreign ownership is a big question mark down the road, but its not the AF/KL/DL pilots being under one contract that i worry about (not that I think that will happen anyway (the AF pilots have more than one union at the present), its the operation of "Skyteam" flights by "asia/africa/mid-east" crews working for 1/10th of DL/KL/AF wages that worries me more.

shiznit 02-20-2011 01:46 PM


Originally Posted by RunFast (Post 951135)
Saw a 73 on the tarmac at FLL unloading pax this morning. News ticker says Delta had an engine failure inflight.

Any words?

Bravo Zulu to the pilots. (or "...to the pilot." as the media would say:mad:)

georgetg 02-20-2011 01:46 PM

Alors!, You guys are looking too far ahead:

The 800 pound gorilla is the integration with Alitalia currently underway.
2 possibilities:
  1. Alitalia transatlantic flying is considered as a share of the current AF-KLM/DAL JV.
    This would be good for DAL pilots because any transatlantic flying done by Alitalia would be added to the AFKLM "pot" and would be matched 1-for-1 by additional Delta flying.
  2. Alitalia transatlantic flying is added to current AF-KLM/DAL JV.
    This would be bad for DAL pilots because the 50%-50% ratio would be skewed to reflect additional flying on the part of AF-KLM-Alitalia. Delta pilots would probably maintain status quo in terms of Atlantic ASMs, but this would be ceding "share" in the transatlantic flying.
The outcome of the Alitalia integration would probably spell out how Delta pilots fare in the upcoming Virgina Australia/DAL JV. A route where I'm afraid we are past the 50%-50% balance in favor of VAustralia....

Cheers
George

shiznit 02-20-2011 01:47 PM

This +1!!!

Originally Posted by georgetg (Post 951141)
you guys are looking too far ahead:

The 800 pound gorilla is the integration with alitalia currently underway.

2 possibilities:

Alitalia transatlantic flying is considered as a share of the current af-klm/dal jv.
This would be good for dal pilots because any transatlantic flying done by alitalia would be added to the afklm "pot" and would be matched 1-for-1 by additional delta flying.

Alitalia transatlantic flying is added to current af-klm/dal jv.
This would be bad for dal pilots because the 50%-50% ratio would be skewed to reflect additional flying on the part of af-klm-alitalia. Delta pilots would probably maintain status quo in terms of atlantic asms, but this would be ceding "share" in the transatlantic flying.

The outcome of the alitalia integration would probably spell out how delta pilots fare in the upcoming virgina australia/dal jv. A route where i'm afraid we are past the 50%-50% balance in favor of vaustralia....

Cheers
george


georgetg 02-20-2011 01:54 PM


Originally Posted by shiznit (Post 951139)
It actually would give us a good bit of leverage if V-Atl. came into skyteam and DL/AFKL wanted them in on the trans-atlantic JV. time will tell.

As a Delta pilot I wouldn't want VAustralia to expand past the Pacific playground...
They are up to 5 777-300ER, at least 2 of those flying to the US and we have one 777-200LR a day in theater...

It will be hard to push for an even 50%-50% split on Pacific ASMs with the current balance of ASMs...

Cheers
George

Nosmo King 02-20-2011 02:00 PM


Originally Posted by georgetg (Post 951151)
As a Delta pilot I wouldn't want VAustralia to expand past the Pacific playground...
They are up to 5 777-300ER, at least 2 of those flying to the US and we have one 777-200LR a day in theater...

It will be hard to push for an even 50%-50% split on Pacific ASMs with the current balance of ASMs...

Cheers
George

You must be excluding all the transpac and Japan interport flying that we do, that is quite a bit of hours and we are just now adding the HND flights to the previous inaugurals of DTW-HKG and DTW-ICN and DTW-PVG.

Now if you are talking about SOUTH Pacific flying, then I see your point.

buzzpat 02-20-2011 02:02 PM


Originally Posted by shiznit (Post 951140)
Bravo Zulu to the pilots. (or "...to the pilot." as the media would say:mad:)

Split crew. NYC CA and LAX FO. The FO is a super dude and our MEC FO rep out here. Great job.

georgetg 02-20-2011 02:04 PM


Originally Posted by Nosmo King (Post 951153)
You must be excluding all the transpac and Japan interport flying that we do, that is quite a bit of hours and we are just now adding the HND flights to the previous inaugurals of DTW-HKG and DTW-ICN and DTW-PVG.

Now if you are talking about SOUTH Pacific flying, then I see your point.

I agree, lots of Pacific flying on the former redtail network ;-)
If we get to bring all the Pacific ASMs to the VA/DAL JV, that will be great!

Unfortunately I'm afraid it will be South Pacific only....
At least we "sell" LAX-PPT on AF ;-)

Cheers
George

iFlyer 02-20-2011 03:04 PM

Virgin Atlantic tie-in
 

Originally Posted by RockyBoy (Post 951095)
It is to compete against the AA/BA JV that was approved. It's been in the news for awhile, but not quite like it was worded this morning. I was thinking to see a JV, but when we hire Goldman there is more than a JV going on.

Yes, it's complicated as there are lots of parts to the equation: Richard Branson owns about half, Singapore owns the other 49% which they bought in 1999. They might be interested in selling. Etihad is interested in buying. Lufthansa/United would like to play spoiler. Delta and AF/KLM would like them as a Skyteam partner for UK/LHR flying and access to compete with AA and BA (who is merging with Iberia from Spain), but might try to pull off an equity stake JV to keep it out of others hands.

Virgin had been fighting the BA/AA alliance for years, and now finally lost. It's time for Branson to fold this hand and play the next game, or cash in his chips and go home.

Lots of chess pieces moving here...

unit monster 02-20-2011 03:37 PM

Question: Is there an instance the gate agent is not supposed to assign first class seats to non-revs? I've seen this happen a few times, but only on domestic 777s.

EDIT: I've actually seen it a lot of times, but usually in a time crunch. I'm referring to empty on time flights.

buzzpat 02-20-2011 03:40 PM


Originally Posted by unit monster (Post 951235)
Question: Is there an instance the gate agent is not supposed to assign first class seats to non-revs? I've seen this happen a few times, but only on domestic 777s.

Not that I'm aware of. But only after all of the other priorities have been seated, HVCs, PS, etc, or children under the age of 9 (I think, I could be wrong about that).

RockyBoy 02-20-2011 03:42 PM


Originally Posted by iFlyer (Post 951201)
Yes, it's complicated as there are lots of parts to the equation: Richard Branson owns about half, Singapore owns the other 49% which they bought in 1999. They might be interested in selling. Etihad is interested in buying. Lufthansa/United would like to play spoiler. Delta and AF/KLM would like them as a Skyteam partner for UK/LHR flying and access to compete with AA and BA (who is merging with Iberia from Spain), but might try to pull off an equity stake JV to keep it out of others hands.

Virgin had been fighting the BA/AA alliance for years, and now finally lost. It's time for Branson to fold this hand and play the next game, or cash in his chips and go home.

Lots of chess pieces moving here...

Yep, and alot more going on than a JV. If we were attempting to just sign a JV with them, we wouldn't need the resources of Goldman Sachs to help us out. I read an article a month or so ago that had the tone to it that Sir Richard was going to bow out of owning a controlling stake so that he could allow VA to compete with the BA/AA JV. Said that if VA doesn't do something they won't be able to compete with that JV and if that meant selling his airline, then he would do it.

PilotFrog 02-20-2011 05:31 PM

If Branson is leaving then he smells an opportunity to sell at a good profit. I'd never trust that man in a negotiation.


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