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Old 04-02-2014 | 01:15 AM
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Originally Posted by PilotFrog
I'm curious. Per the DALNET home page, Effective Tuesday, nearly all Delta frontline employees worldwide received an increase in base pay of up to 3 percent and merit employees participated in a 3 percent merit pool.

Did that trigger our review of 757 rates but since we make more than AA/USAir and UCAL it was a moot point?
Per section 3 B.4?
Yes and yes
Old 04-02-2014 | 01:18 AM
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Originally Posted by tsquare
We haven't done anything yet. 50 is a number. Just like saying we want to start hiring in 2012 (that's for you ftb)... Until it is in writing, accompanied with a presser, and a few bids, it is just talk, and not impressive imho. The word "replacement" inserted anywhere in that statement ruined the whole thing.
The words replacement have been and will be in every order Delta makes so you're not going to like any of them.
Old 04-02-2014 | 04:37 AM
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Originally Posted by forgot to bid
It is nuts when you look at Emirates fleet.

A332: 21 being replaced by A350
A343: 4 being replaced by A350
A345: 9 being replaced by A350
A359: 50 on order
A351: 20 on order
A380: 47 plus 93 on firm order
772: 3 being replaced by A350
772ER: 6
772LR: 10
773: 12
773ER: 93 with 59 on order

UAE population 9.2 million.
They must not have gotten the memo on capacity discipline.
Old 04-02-2014 | 04:50 AM
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Originally Posted by GogglesPisano
They must not have gotten the memo on capacity discipline.
Capacity discipline is only needed when you have competitors in your country, and your king isn't giving you dirhams to help you crush foreign infidels.
Old 04-02-2014 | 04:59 AM
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Originally Posted by GogglesPisano
They must not have gotten the memo on capacity discipline.
They don't worry about flying a bunch of half empty widebody jets around the world. Last week on the way to Dubai we heard one of their A380's checking in with ATC at FL400 just after exiting the Nat tracks over Ireland.

You gotta be pretty light to be that high, that far out. (about 7 hours out of DXB)

I'd like to know what their system average load factor is, and what their "Break Even" load factor is, or if they even have one.
Old 04-02-2014 | 05:06 AM
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Keep them coming. I am sure you guys can find more negative things to say about Delta ordering aircraft. You're not quite up to the usual level of doom and gloom but close!
Old 04-02-2014 | 05:06 AM
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Originally Posted by Going2Baja
Talk about a wake up...WOW. We are a little little airline when it comes to Heavy Lift.

Baja.
Yeah, whole different world when you don't have a sugar daddy to prop up your earnings and a foreign (US) government to give you an advantage on those purchases....
Old 04-02-2014 | 05:06 AM
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Originally Posted by forgot to bid
It is nuts when you look at Emirates fleet.

A332: 21 being replaced by A350
A343: 4 being replaced by A350
A345: 9 being replaced by A350
A359: 50 on order
A351: 20 on order
A380: 47 plus 93 on firm order
772: 3 being replaced by A350
772ER: 6
772LR: 10
773: 12
773ER: 93 with 59 on order

UAE population 9.2 million.
Now, if you can find it, add in the current aircraft and orders for Qatar and Etiahd.

And the 3 ME carriers are getting access to 10 major US cities, and wanting more access, to more cities, each of which has much more population than the entire UAE.

While the 3 major US Carriers get access to....

Dubai.

That's a fair trade if I ever saw one!

Thanks Congress.
Old 04-02-2014 | 05:10 AM
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Originally Posted by Timbo
Now, if you can find it, add in the current aircraft and orders for Qatar and Etiahd.

And the 3 ME carriers are getting access to 10 major US cities, and wanting more access, to more cities, each of which has much more population than the entire UAE.

While the 3 major US Carriers get access to....

Dubai.

That's a fair trade if I ever saw one!

Thanks Congress.
And a special shout out to our boy, Marco Rubio...
Old 04-02-2014 | 05:37 AM
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Originally Posted by Purple Drank
I'm trying to drive some awareness, accountability and results from the MEC and DALPA's bloated, ineffective, unelected bureaucracy.

... alan shore...appear(s) to be doing exactly the opposite.
I'm not sure how you read that in any of my posts. My reps know that I insist on full awareness, accountability, and results from them and that I want as much restoration of my former buying power as can possibly be achieved. They have stated repeatedly that they agree with those points of view.

However, I refuse to wallow in the self-pity of those who exaggerate every negative that they see and discount every positive. At Delta, I see a bloated, ineffective, unelected bureaucracy that has achieved more than any other bloated, ineffective, unelected bureaucracy in the industry.

Have they achieved enough to make me whole? No.

Have they achieved everything they could? I have my suspicions, but I will never truly know one way or the other unless I get out from behind my keyboard and become fully engaged.

In the meantime, I prefer to work with facts that represent the full picture, not just the portion that happens to justify the position of one side of the argument or the other. Anything else is just sniping.

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