Any "Latest & Greatest" about Delta?
04-06-2014 | 06:39 AM
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Sounds so simple, eh?
You are encouraged to employ Google and read up on the National Mediation Board, the Railway Labor Act, the procedures and the methods used to negotiate our contract.
Also, I would point out that C2012 actually met or exceeded your stated goals in every area, but one.
As you read up on the legal environment we must operate under, you will come to the realization that stating objective goals in public as you suggest could be very counter productive to reaching those goals. In the most simple terms the process of mediation implies meeting in the middle. If you state your goals you've actually just set your ceiling. Management will then rest the floor lower ... when they meet you "half way" then you've lost. ... and Purple Drank would constantly remind you how you fell short.
Sounds simple, but publishing is a really lousy strategy. We can get into this in greater depth if you want, but off the cuff:
You are encouraged to employ Google and read up on the National Mediation Board, the Railway Labor Act, the procedures and the methods used to negotiate our contract.
Also, I would point out that C2012 actually met or exceeded your stated goals in every area, but one.
As you read up on the legal environment we must operate under, you will come to the realization that stating objective goals in public as you suggest could be very counter productive to reaching those goals. In the most simple terms the process of mediation implies meeting in the middle. If you state your goals you've actually just set your ceiling. Management will then rest the floor lower ... when they meet you "half way" then you've lost. ... and Purple Drank would constantly remind you how you fell short.
Sounds simple, but publishing is a really lousy strategy. We can get into this in greater depth if you want, but off the cuff:
- Sets a ceiling over pilots
- Mid point can be reset lower by management
- Sets expectations by membership
- NMB might find bad faith for refusal to negotiate from your published goals
- Pilots likely to argue over published goals (think the goals are too much X and not enough Y)
- Goals may need to change as a result of an external factor (FAR117 for instance)
04-06-2014 | 06:40 AM
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I attend LEC meetings regularly.
The company's making record profits. We managed to negotiate a "bankruptcy plus" contract...after giving up work rules to get the "plus."
I'm sure I'd be impressed by "depth of knowledge and experience some of these pilots have." I'd be more impressed with some results.
Let's start with 117 negotiations.
The company's making record profits. We managed to negotiate a "bankruptcy plus" contract...after giving up work rules to get the "plus."
I'm sure I'd be impressed by "depth of knowledge and experience some of these pilots have." I'd be more impressed with some results.
Let's start with 117 negotiations.
04-06-2014 | 06:43 AM
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04-06-2014 | 06:45 AM
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04-06-2014 | 06:49 AM
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How could they? Guys like PD then take what they "expect" as being a hard line in concrete somewhere, and if that line is somehow not achieved, want to light torches and take up pitchforks for the execution.
04-06-2014 | 06:57 AM
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Why can't DALPA set goals that they can be held accountable to? Enough ether, feel-good goals that allow those in leadership positions to claim success no matter how ineffective they may end up being. By contrast our company has set the following goals and expects their success to be measured by them:
- 10-12% annual operating margins
- Annual EPS growth of 10-15%
- 15% return on invested capital
- $5+ billion annual operating cash flow with ~50% reinvested back into the business
- Investment grade balance sheet metrics, including $7 billion of adjusted net debt by 2015
When I represent a client as a defendant or litigant in a criminal or civil proceeding, we discuss our goals in private and develop our strategy from there. But I NEVER let the DA or opposing counsel know anything specific about our goals, other than our current negotiating position. Only in that way can I reasonably expect to achieve the greatest possible outcome for my clients. This leaves them with no objective means by which to measure my success, only their individual level of satisfaction with the outcome.
IMO, the circumstance of a collective bargaining agent such as ours is much more aligned with that of an attorney such as myself than it is with a public commercial enterprise.
04-06-2014 | 07:30 AM
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04-06-2014 | 07:41 AM
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