Any "Latest & Greatest" about Delta?
05-23-2014 | 10:00 AM
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05-23-2014 | 10:21 AM
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05-23-2014 | 10:29 AM
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On a min day, each day has to be brought up to at least the min value, with credit if needed.
On an average daily guarantee, the entire trip has to be equal to the ADG * the number of days on the trip (minus carveouts).
Let's say MIN and ADG are both 5:15.
Let's the trip is blocked 2:15/6:15/4:15, or 12:45 total
With an ADG, you get 5:15 * 3 = 15:45 (because it's > 12:45)
With a MIN, you would get 5:15/6:15/5:15, or 16:45
Of course, keep in mind I have no idea *** I'm talking about, but I think that's how they work.
05-23-2014 | 10:31 AM
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I'm so very glad I answered Ferd's question, then saw Bar already did...
05-23-2014 | 10:33 AM
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As of today you cannot use the two hours to commute for short call if you are coming off of long call. The only time you can use it is coming off an x day. I talked to a scheduler and supervisor both confirmed this. My question is, is this specifically prohibited by the New ta or just new practice.
Fyi for all commuters
Fyi for all commuters
05-23-2014 | 10:41 AM
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There's a 30 minute buffer also.
I suppose they COULD do it. It wouldn't be an official Split Duty under the FARs though.
They would have to schedule it for 11+30 or less, the return leg would have to push before 6 AM, and here's the big one:
It would pay 10+30.
$$ Ka-ching. $$
I suppose they COULD do it. It wouldn't be an official Split Duty under the FARs though.
They would have to schedule it for 11+30 or less, the return leg would have to push before 6 AM, and here's the big one:
It would pay 10+30.
$$ Ka-ching. $$
05-23-2014 | 11:03 AM
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According to the LOA, this is a new change that affects all reserves. So much for protecting the reserve QOL. 
Two hour commute window now only applies to the first day after a non-fly day. See page 24 of the LOA.
Two hour commute window now only applies to the first day after a non-fly day. See page 24 of the LOA.
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05-23-2014 | 11:06 AM
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Ferd,
Min day was just that. Every day was worth XX.
We have an average daily guarantee, so on average they must equal XX.
Lets say X=5 ... with two trips which fly 8 / o / 8
Min would be 8/5/8=21
Avg would be 8/0/8=16, 16 > 15 so no credit.
Many airlines that have min days have prorated deals where a part day = part pay.
Min day was just that. Every day was worth XX.
We have an average daily guarantee, so on average they must equal XX.
Lets say X=5 ... with two trips which fly 8 / o / 8
Min would be 8/5/8=21
Avg would be 8/0/8=16, 16 > 15 so no credit.
Many airlines that have min days have prorated deals where a part day = part pay.
I'll take that, and embarrass myself with a wrong answer:
On a min day, each day has to be brought up to at least the min value, with credit if needed.
On an average daily guarantee, the entire trip has to be equal to the ADG * the number of days on the trip (minus carveouts).
Let's say MIN and ADG are both 5:15.
Let's the trip is blocked 2:15/6:15/4:15, or 12:45 total
With an ADG, you get 5:15 * 3 = 15:45 (because it's > 12:45)
With a MIN, you would get 5:15/6:15/5:15, or 16:45
Of course, keep in mind I have no idea *** I'm talking about, but I think that's how they work.
On a min day, each day has to be brought up to at least the min value, with credit if needed.
On an average daily guarantee, the entire trip has to be equal to the ADG * the number of days on the trip (minus carveouts).
Let's say MIN and ADG are both 5:15.
Let's the trip is blocked 2:15/6:15/4:15, or 12:45 total
With an ADG, you get 5:15 * 3 = 15:45 (because it's > 12:45)
With a MIN, you would get 5:15/6:15/5:15, or 16:45
Of course, keep in mind I have no idea *** I'm talking about, but I think that's how they work.
Maybe we want to push for a minimum day then? One of those "work rule raises" that Wall Street or the other employee groups wouldn't see.....
I don't care how we make the W-2 go up as long as it goes up.
Thanks guys
Ferd
05-23-2014 | 11:37 AM
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05-23-2014 | 11:40 AM
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NHTSB just predicted 380 deaths on our nations highways over the Memorial Day holiday. Can you imagine if a similar prediction was made for US air travel. Everyone have a safe holiday.
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