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Old 05-23-2014 | 06:24 AM
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Originally Posted by Big E 757
When RA told you point blank that he was not here to facilitate a merger, did you believe him then too? I would consider anything regarding future merger plans "inside information" and thus, a big no-no to discuss with employees and LCA's.
What is with that new section about flying to Hawaii and 4 subsequent landings? I guess they could now augment (intra Hawaii) with the new agreement and fly an inter-island tag on with a 757 (class II rest). Seems odd they would ask for that without a clear reason...
Old 05-23-2014 | 06:25 AM
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Originally Posted by Sink r8
Do you guys also try to convince your wife and kids that you're saving our union democratic process on the internet, and there was this very important LOA, and you were going to have to do these awful, awful trips, which would take you away from them, so you had to get the word out, but you love them very much? Do they buy it?

Or is it just better to say you're surfing for porn?
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Old 05-23-2014 | 06:34 AM
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Originally Posted by FlyingSig
PWA, Section 12 Q 1

Q. Window of Circadian Low (WOCL)

1. At the time of publication of the bid package:
a. if a duty period is scheduled to intrude into a WOCL, it will:
1) contain no more than two landings within the WOCL.
2) not contain a flight segment(s) originating subsequent to the WOCL.
I think the WOCL ends at 0600, so as long as a return flight is scheduled for a early departure before 0600 there would be no problem with CDOs. In fact this rule would help keep them under the 11:30 scheduled FDP.
Old 05-23-2014 | 06:36 AM
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Originally Posted by FlyingSig
§ 117.15 Flight duty period: Split duty.
For an unaugmented operation only, if a flightcrew member is provided with a rest opportunity (an opportunity to sleep) in a suitable accommodation during his or her flight duty period, the time that the flightcrew member spends in the suitable accommodation is not part of that flightcrew member’s flight duty period if all of the following conditions are met:
(a) The rest opportunity is provided between the hours of 22:00 and 05:00 local time.
(b) The time spent in the suitable accommodation is at least 3 hours, measured from the time that the flightcrew member reaches the suitable accommodation.
(c) The rest opportunity is scheduled before the beginning of the flight duty period in which that rest opportunity is taken.
(d) The rest opportunity that the flightcrew member is actually provided may not be less than the rest opportunity that was scheduled.
(e) The rest opportunity is not provided until the first segment of the flight duty period has been completed.
(f) The combined time of the flight duty period and the rest opportunity provided in this section does not exceed 14 hours.
We did not add language for SDP so this is not a factor. What we did do was make CDOs possible for both scheduled and IROP situations.
Old 05-23-2014 | 06:36 AM
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APC Colleagues,

I was clearly incorrect about my opinion on SDP's in this TA. There was a severe underestimation on how disliked they were. The MEC was right to delete them from the TA; they listened to the pilot group and made our lives better going forward.

MY MEC SPEAKS FOR ME. <---That hasn't changed.
Old 05-23-2014 | 06:36 AM
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Originally Posted by forgot to bid


The writing was on the wall when Carl and Tsquare were on the same page. To make a run on Cemetery Hill was not worth it.
Absolutely hilarious! The FTB route was an important ploy however to confuse the enemy and make him feel lost.

Gyoza for all my friends!

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Old 05-23-2014 | 06:38 AM
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Originally Posted by forgot to bid


The writing was on the wall when Carl and Tsquare were on the same page. To make a run on Cemetery Hill was not worth it.
I see you, PD.
Old 05-23-2014 | 06:50 AM
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Didn't we used to have a provision in the contract that said if you had a sit time of 5 hours or more, you were due a hotel room if you wanted one? I've been looking and cannot find it.

Denny
Old 05-23-2014 | 06:54 AM
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Originally Posted by Denny Crane
Didn't we used to have a provision in the contract that said if you had a sit time of 5 hours or more, you were due a hotel room if you wanted one? I've been looking and cannot find it.

Denny
We do. Just used it a few weeks ago.
Old 05-23-2014 | 06:57 AM
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Originally Posted by Denny Crane
Didn't we used to have a provision in the contract that said if you had a sit time of 5 hours or more, you were due a hotel room if you wanted one? I've been looking and cannot find it.

Denny

PWA 5 E 1 d

at a station (at or away from base) at which the pilot is scheduled for block-in to block-out time of more than five hours (upon the pilot’s request).

Exception: If travel time to a co-terminal is part of the scheduled block-in to block- out time, the pilot will be provided lodging (upon his request) if the total ground time is more than the sum of five hours plus the ground travel time under Section 8 B. 3.
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