What is with that new section about flying to Hawaii and 4 subsequent landings? I guess they could now augment (intra Hawaii) with the new agreement and fly an inter-island tag on with a 757 (class II rest). Seems odd they would ask for that without a clear reason...

14 of the 757's which are being updated are slated for Hawaii flying.

05-23-2014 | 09:16 AM

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05-23-2014 | 09:20 AM

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Originally Posted by gzsg

Good points all.

If each and every one of us takes the time to write on call our reps on C2015 we will hit the grand slam we deserve.

Let's not get lazy.

Great post!

Let's also agree that when all the pilots take the time to vote on something, like C2012, those in the minority on the vote will recognize it as the will of the body.

05-23-2014 | 09:22 AM

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From: Douglas Aerospace post production Flight Test & Work Around Engineering bulletin dissembler

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Originally Posted by firstmob

14 of the 757's which are being updated are slated for Hawaii flying.

I like the idea of 4 smaller engines on the 757. Makes it faster.

Strange to see the hill to 26R without parts of broken Douglas jets scattered all over the place.

05-23-2014 | 09:24 AM

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Originally Posted by tsquare

Like sailingfun says, follow the money. The financials of a HI tieup make little if any sense. They bring nothing to the table that we cannot get organically, and besides, they are heavily tied to the yen which ain't doing so well these days..... jmho, ymmv

What do you mean "follow the money"? Are there clues out there I'm not picking up on...like our current growth plans in Seattle and LA?

I bought 4000 shares of HA stock in my brokerage link 3 years ago in anticipation of a merger, so it just HAS to happen, right?

05-23-2014 | 09:29 AM

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I forget who said it, but I agree we REALLY need live video LEC meetings and electronic voting of resolutions. This is the 21st century. As the pilot group becomes more and more commuter, I really don't see any other way. I'm probably the average guy on here, in 18 years I've commuted in for one meeting....and that was during the merger discussions.

T is dead on about longer trips. NWA had a 4:15 minimum day, and it's a huge driver on trip construction. Now, can someone smart explain a minimum day vs what we just agreed to. It looks real similar.......

Ferd

05-23-2014 | 09:32 AM

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So, anyone else been on a 737-900 with a whole lot of slow moving families contributing to an aft CG while unloading?

05-23-2014 | 09:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Ferd149

Ferd,

Min day was just that. Every day was worth XX.

We have an average daily guarantee, so on average they must equal XX.

Lets say X=5 ... with two trips which fly 8 / o / 8

Min would be 8/5/8=21
Avg would be 8/0/8=16, 16 > 15 so no credit.

Many airlines that have min days have prorated deals where a part day = part pay.

05-23-2014 | 09:52 AM

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Originally Posted by vprMatrix

We did not add language for SDP so this is not a factor. What we did do was make CDOs possible for both scheduled and IROP situations.

Essentially we have 11 hours, extendable with concurrence and no departure after the WOCL. It also pays 10:30. I don't see this as attractive to the company. A hotel room would have to be provided for greater than 5 hours and very few would extend if the need arose hurting schedule integrity. Could be wrong of course, but I think we will be just fine.

05-23-2014 | 09:59 AM

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As of today you cannot use the two hours to commute for short call if you are coming off of long call. The only time you can use it is coming off an x day. I talked to a scheduler and supervisor both confirmed this. My question is, is this specifically prohibited by the New ta or just new practice.
Fyi for all commuters