Any "Latest & Greatest" about Delta?
First, the policy manual resides in the ALPA library for everyone to see and has even been pushed to the devices of those who signed up for the iPubs or Box deliveries. I'm not sure how the manual could be further highlighted without risking further ALPA pub fatigue.
I have to ask you what does "significant" mean? How would you define "significant" so we all agree on the definition?
The policy manual reads:
Collective bargaining agreements that have been approved by the MEC and result from negotiations undertaken pursuant to both Section 28 of the PWA and Section 6 of the Railway Labor Act that both resolve all Section 6 issues and conclude Section 6 negotiations shall be subject to membership ratification. All other agreements shall be subject only to MEC ratification unless the MEC determines that an agreement should be subject to membership ratification.
Assuming you are aware of the policy manual's direction on how to communicate a TA prior to memrat (road shows, pubs, etc ...):
* Did you want membership ratification (with delays to making PD pilots whole)?
* What about your MEC unanimous vote in favor of the agreement?
* If yes, then what would be your suggested change to the policy manual?
My rep asked me about memrat and like everyone else around at that moment I replied "no reason with CDO's removed ... there is no significant change, just improvement." FWIW, the "significant change" litmus was still being used in the decision making process among the reps I communicated with.
I don't understand how memrat would have improved results for Delta pilots, yet I can see how memrat would have harmed Delta pilots by delaying the implementation of improvements and getting guys paid.
Interested on your thoughts on improvement.
I have to ask you what does "significant" mean? How would you define "significant" so we all agree on the definition?
The policy manual reads:
Collective bargaining agreements that have been approved by the MEC and result from negotiations undertaken pursuant to both Section 28 of the PWA and Section 6 of the Railway Labor Act that both resolve all Section 6 issues and conclude Section 6 negotiations shall be subject to membership ratification. All other agreements shall be subject only to MEC ratification unless the MEC determines that an agreement should be subject to membership ratification.
Assuming you are aware of the policy manual's direction on how to communicate a TA prior to memrat (road shows, pubs, etc ...):
* Did you want membership ratification (with delays to making PD pilots whole)?
* What about your MEC unanimous vote in favor of the agreement?
* If yes, then what would be your suggested change to the policy manual?
My rep asked me about memrat and like everyone else around at that moment I replied "no reason with CDO's removed ... there is no significant change, just improvement." FWIW, the "significant change" litmus was still being used in the decision making process among the reps I communicated with.
I don't understand how memrat would have improved results for Delta pilots, yet I can see how memrat would have harmed Delta pilots by delaying the implementation of improvements and getting guys paid.
Interested on your thoughts on improvement.
Why change that significant portion of when Memrat was to be used in the policy manual? The previous wording would have covered this LOA without all the drama we experienced. It should have been used on all of the JV LOAs that reset look backs and wasn't as it was changed just prior to those.
In hindsight, it would have been beneficial to have had that JV LOA language and pressure tested it prior to buying off on it. Lots of pilot jobs and advancement evaporated. Would that not have been considered a significant change to our contract?
You state that Memrat would have delayed putting money back into the pockets of those that had PDs. Really? For how long do you suppose? Putting the language of the LOA on the secured side of the alpa website and allowing people to peruse it over a week is enough. No road shows necessary. So I fail to see where your argument against Memrat on those grounds even gains any lift all. Same goes for your argument of delaying improvements. BTW. Which ones? Everything implemented now is a company benefit. Ours are delayed until November.
Oh, and my thoughts for improvement: change the policy manual language on Memrat back to what it was.
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Kind of a long winded reply that did not provide any information on the foundation of my post.
Why change that significant portion of when Memrat was to be used in the policy manual? The previous wording would have covered this LOA without all the drama we experienced. It should have been used on all of the JV LOAs that reset look backs and wasn't as it was changed just prior to those.
In hindsight, it would have been beneficial to have had that JV LOA language and pressure tested it prior to buying off on it. Lots of pilot jobs and advancement evaporated. Would that not have been considered a significant change to our contract?
You state that Memrat would have delayed putting money back into the pockets of those that had PDs. Really? For how long do you suppose? Putting the language of the LOA on the secured side of the alpa website and allowing people to peruse it over a week is enough. No road shows necessary. So I fail to see where your argument against Memrat on those grounds even gains any lift all. Same goes for your argument of delaying improvements. BTW. Which ones? Everything implemented now is a company benefit. Ours are delayed until November.
Oh, and my thoughts for improvement: change the policy manual language on Memrat back to what it was.
Why change that significant portion of when Memrat was to be used in the policy manual? The previous wording would have covered this LOA without all the drama we experienced. It should have been used on all of the JV LOAs that reset look backs and wasn't as it was changed just prior to those.
In hindsight, it would have been beneficial to have had that JV LOA language and pressure tested it prior to buying off on it. Lots of pilot jobs and advancement evaporated. Would that not have been considered a significant change to our contract?
You state that Memrat would have delayed putting money back into the pockets of those that had PDs. Really? For how long do you suppose? Putting the language of the LOA on the secured side of the alpa website and allowing people to peruse it over a week is enough. No road shows necessary. So I fail to see where your argument against Memrat on those grounds even gains any lift all. Same goes for your argument of delaying improvements. BTW. Which ones? Everything implemented now is a company benefit. Ours are delayed until November.
Oh, and my thoughts for improvement: change the policy manual language on Memrat back to what it was.
There was outcry that pilots like PD were not getting his PD's paid back and ALPA wasn't doing anything to help.* I'm glad that worked out The delay otherwise would have been approximately 60 days. I will defer to the manual for the procedures that have to be followed since you seem to prefer brief answers. I wonder, do we know whether management would have made the same offer after the summer flying crunch?
Would you have voted for this agreement?
What benefit do you believe would have come from memrat on this agreement?
Delta adding Seattle flights to Maui, Mexico and more
Posted by Kristin Jackson
Delta Air Lines is adding more flights from Seattle to popular beach and ski destinations, plus regional service to Spokane, as it keeps strongly expanding service at Sea-Tac Airport and continues to give regional powerhouse Alaska Airlines a run for the money.
Delta plans to add service from Seattle to Maui plus to Cabo San Lucas and Puerto Vallarta, Mexico; Calgary, Alberta; Spokane; and Bozeman, Mont.
The Delta flights will begin in November and December (international flights still are awaiting government approval). Here’s the word from Delta on the new routes:
Four daily flights to Spokane International Airport using two-class, 65-seat CRJ-700 aircraft beginning Nov. 3
Two daily flights to Calgary International Airport using two-class, 76-seat Embraer E-175 aircraft, beginning Nov. 3
New Seattle service beginning Dec. 20 includes:
One daily flight to Maui’s Kahului Airport using a Boeing 757-200.
One daily seasonal flight to Bozeman Yellowstone International Airport through Jan. 4, 2015, then Saturday service from Jan. 10 through March 28, 2015, using two-class, 76-seat Embraer E-175 aircraft.
Four weekly flights to Los Cabos through Jan. 10, 2015, then Saturday service beginning Jan. 17, 2015, using an Airbus A319 aircraft.
Four weekly flights to Puerto Vallarta through Jan. 10, 2015, then Saturday service beginning Jan. 17, 2015, using an Airbus A319 aircraft.
Posted by Kristin Jackson
Delta Air Lines is adding more flights from Seattle to popular beach and ski destinations, plus regional service to Spokane, as it keeps strongly expanding service at Sea-Tac Airport and continues to give regional powerhouse Alaska Airlines a run for the money.
Delta plans to add service from Seattle to Maui plus to Cabo San Lucas and Puerto Vallarta, Mexico; Calgary, Alberta; Spokane; and Bozeman, Mont.
The Delta flights will begin in November and December (international flights still are awaiting government approval). Here’s the word from Delta on the new routes:
Four daily flights to Spokane International Airport using two-class, 65-seat CRJ-700 aircraft beginning Nov. 3
Two daily flights to Calgary International Airport using two-class, 76-seat Embraer E-175 aircraft, beginning Nov. 3
New Seattle service beginning Dec. 20 includes:
One daily flight to Maui’s Kahului Airport using a Boeing 757-200.
One daily seasonal flight to Bozeman Yellowstone International Airport through Jan. 4, 2015, then Saturday service from Jan. 10 through March 28, 2015, using two-class, 76-seat Embraer E-175 aircraft.
Four weekly flights to Los Cabos through Jan. 10, 2015, then Saturday service beginning Jan. 17, 2015, using an Airbus A319 aircraft.
Four weekly flights to Puerto Vallarta through Jan. 10, 2015, then Saturday service beginning Jan. 17, 2015, using an Airbus A319 aircraft.
I wonder if that "I am Alaska." video had anything to do with it? :roll eyes:
a single payback day will drop the whole trip and pay you what the value of the first day is. You can pick the trip back up then in the next pcs run.
Delta adding Seattle flights to Maui, Mexico and more
Posted by Kristin Jackson
Delta Air Lines is adding more flights from Seattle to popular beach and ski destinations, plus regional service to Spokane, as it keeps strongly expanding service at Sea-Tac Airport and continues to give regional powerhouse Alaska Airlines a run for the money.
Delta plans to add service from Seattle to Maui plus to Cabo San Lucas and Puerto Vallarta, Mexico; Calgary, Alberta; Spokane; and Bozeman, Mont.
The Delta flights will begin in November and December (international flights still are awaiting government approval). Here’s the word from Delta on the new routes:
Four daily flights to Spokane International Airport using two-class, 65-seat CRJ-700 aircraft beginning Nov. 3
Two daily flights to Calgary International Airport using two-class, 76-seat Embraer E-175 aircraft, beginning Nov. 3
New Seattle service beginning Dec. 20 includes:
One daily flight to Maui’s Kahului Airport using a Boeing 757-200.
One daily seasonal flight to Bozeman Yellowstone International Airport through Jan. 4, 2015, then Saturday service from Jan. 10 through March 28, 2015, using two-class, 76-seat Embraer E-175 aircraft.
Four weekly flights to Los Cabos through Jan. 10, 2015, then Saturday service beginning Jan. 17, 2015, using an Airbus A319 aircraft.
Four weekly flights to Puerto Vallarta through Jan. 10, 2015, then Saturday service beginning Jan. 17, 2015, using an Airbus A319 aircraft.
Posted by Kristin Jackson
Delta Air Lines is adding more flights from Seattle to popular beach and ski destinations, plus regional service to Spokane, as it keeps strongly expanding service at Sea-Tac Airport and continues to give regional powerhouse Alaska Airlines a run for the money.
Delta plans to add service from Seattle to Maui plus to Cabo San Lucas and Puerto Vallarta, Mexico; Calgary, Alberta; Spokane; and Bozeman, Mont.
The Delta flights will begin in November and December (international flights still are awaiting government approval). Here’s the word from Delta on the new routes:
Four daily flights to Spokane International Airport using two-class, 65-seat CRJ-700 aircraft beginning Nov. 3
Two daily flights to Calgary International Airport using two-class, 76-seat Embraer E-175 aircraft, beginning Nov. 3
New Seattle service beginning Dec. 20 includes:
One daily flight to Maui’s Kahului Airport using a Boeing 757-200.
One daily seasonal flight to Bozeman Yellowstone International Airport through Jan. 4, 2015, then Saturday service from Jan. 10 through March 28, 2015, using two-class, 76-seat Embraer E-175 aircraft.
Four weekly flights to Los Cabos through Jan. 10, 2015, then Saturday service beginning Jan. 17, 2015, using an Airbus A319 aircraft.
Four weekly flights to Puerto Vallarta through Jan. 10, 2015, then Saturday service beginning Jan. 17, 2015, using an Airbus A319 aircraft.
More Eskimo hunting?
From another thread re: Alaska
Just heard hiring will double this year. Old number 80 ish... New number 160 by the end of year. I guess they are keeping some -400s they were going to turn in. Some more new flying to be announced soon. Good luck
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