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Old 09-11-2014, 07:41 AM
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Originally Posted by Timbo View Post
In the past 18mo. 17 ATL 777 A's have retired, this bid only replace 10 of them. Net loss 7.
And there are another 19 777 A's (18 ATL and 1 DTW) retiring in the next 12 months, so hopefully the bids will keep coming!
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Old 09-11-2014, 07:46 AM
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Not to change the subject of the day, but:

Import Export Bank now saying it also supports AirBus sales.

Originally Posted by http://news.airwise.com/story/view/1410409330.html

US Ex-Im Bank Would Back Airbus Sales

September 10, 2014

The US Export-Import Bank would provide financing for exports of Airbus aircraft, provided they were assembled in the United States with sufficient content from domestic suppliers, the bank's head said on Wednesday.

"We're about US jobs," Ex-Im Bank President Fred Hochberg told the Reuters Aerospace and Defense Summit in Washington.

"We have no national treasures," Hochberg said, in a reference to Airbus rival Boeing. "Every company is a national treasure."

The bank, which supports loans for US manufacturers selling products to foreign companies, is at the center of a bruising battle over whether Congress should renew its authority to operate, which expires on September 30.

About 46 percent of the bank's total financial exposure is for airliners made by Boeing, according to US Government Accountability Office figures.

Airbus is setting up a factory in Mobile, Alabama, to assemble commercial jets, and is due to begin making deliveries in 2016.

While Airbus intends to sell the aircraft to US airlines, there would be no restriction against US export credit support for foreign airlines buying US-manufactured Airbus planes, Hochberg said.

"To the extent that the Airbus plane is actually made here, we could support those exports that are made in the United States," he said.

Airbus has said the US supplies more than 40 percent of its aircraft-related purchasing, including engines.

Hochberg said there were no minimum content requirements, but that the Ex-Im bank looks closely at content and labor in product before deciding on support.
This kinda highlights the problem. US Taxpayers are providing a subsidy for foreign manufacturers who sell goods to foreign buyers who compete with American workers. Better to allow everyone access to cheap US Dollars (they're free to create from the perspective of Government officials), or just get rid of the nonsense all together.
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Old 09-11-2014, 07:53 AM
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Originally Posted by Ferd149 View Post
Wow, the SLI again.......guess things must be going ok around here if this is all there is to talk about.

The list was about as good as we were going to get....on day one. No one's life changed much (the goal) but over time we are seeing some of the flaws. The tweak that was needed was the dynamic list that the NWA Blue guy put forward IMHO. Unfortunately it didn't satisfy the NWA Greens and was way to radical for the South guys.

Maybe next time with the next merger........especially if the demographics are way off (like the E vs W). What made ours work is our demographics weren't that far off (N slightly older that S).

But, no one has come up with a good answer of what to do if we (a large international carrier) merges with a small domestic/narrowbody only carrier. To my knowledge no one has figured that one out yet.

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This very argument is why companies domestic code share rather than merge.
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Old 09-11-2014, 07:57 AM
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Originally Posted by Bucking Bar View Post
Thus far, we have yet to see an objective indication that Delta is doing much other than liquidating our long haul fleet. ALPA says they've seen he future and it is bright (but they can't tell us about it and management could change their mind).
I think that's about right. Our heavy jet flying is slowly being given to our international "partners". We are currently enthusiastic about hiring and upgrades and all that but its all domestic narrowbody. The top half of the seniority list is stagnant and/or moving backwards.
Whatever we've been doing with regard to top end scope obviously isn't working. We need some new ideas. Signing off on these joint ventures has done nothing but cost us jobs on the big iron.
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Old 09-11-2014, 07:58 AM
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Originally Posted by Ferd149 View Post
FTB, nice chart as usual.

But, just a point of order. We didn't do relative seniority (well sort of but that's the Readers Digest version). We did a Status and Category list, which will actually fix the Alaska question. IE the #1 Alaska guy would be slotted in with our #1 737 guy.......in theory........
After stove piping the list.
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Old 09-11-2014, 08:11 AM
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Originally Posted by Bucking Bar View Post
Not to change the subject of the day, but:

Import Export Bank now saying it also supports AirBus sales.



This kinda highlights the problem. US Taxpayers are providing a subsidy for foreign manufacturers who sell goods to foreign buyers who compete with American workers. Better to allow everyone access to cheap US Dollars (they're free to create from the perspective of Government officials), or just get rid of the nonsense all together.
From one of our pilots in the MSP Startribune:

Should our government help U.S. businesses export their American-made products? Most Americans would say “yes.”
Should it provide foreign companies with favorable financing unavailable to their U.S. competitors? Most Americans would say “No!”
As Congress decides the fate of the Export-Import Bank, the U.S. credit agency that offers attractive financing terms to purchasers of American products, we have an opportunity to keep what’s right and correct what’s wrong. Congress needs to couple bank funding with common-sense reforms that won’t put American companies and workers at a competitive disadvantage.
As a commercial airline pilot for the last 29 years flying for a major U.S. carrier, I’ve become concerned about the Ex-Im Bank. The bank has rapidly expanded its financing for widebody aircraft (big, long-range planes) that will be used on international routes directly competing with U.S. airlines. The Government Accountability Office (GAO) recently reported that 42 percent of the Ex-Im Bank’s total exposure is in the aircraft sector; 28 percent of the total is financing widebody aircraft. That amounts to nearly $40 billion worth of subsidies our government gives foreign competitors. It allows select foreign airlines an unfair advantage over our carriers, who are not eligible for this cut-rate financing.
Worse still, many of the purchasers of these subsidized aircraft are state-owned or state-*supported airlines that have easy access to the capital markets and don’t need financing.
By providing below-market financing for foreign companies purchasing widebody airplanes, the Ex-Im Bank saves U.S. airlines’ competitors approximately $20 million over the life of a single aircraft. These savings come on top of other home advantages that foreign state-supported companies enjoy, including a tax-free business environment, a less-restrictive regulatory structure, the injection of state capital into their business, and infrastructure, which may include lower fuel costs.
We already see the end results of this unlevel playing field: U.S. airline companies are losing their share of the international market, and U.S. airline workers are losing their jobs. Recently, Air India, using an Ex-Im-funded plane to undercut competition between Mumbai and New York, forced Delta out of the market entirely.
Emirates Airline, owned by the city-state of Dubai, recently finalized a $56 billion order for 150 Boeing 777X planes. These more fuel-efficient planes can seat as many as 450 people. The entire order is eligible for Ex-Im financing and would threaten the jobs of more than 151,000 U.S. aviation workers.
The U.S. government shouldn’t be stacking the deck against American companies and American workers. That’s why many senators and representatives from both parties, and many U.S. companies large and small, agree that business as usual at the Ex-Im Bank is no longer acceptable. Reform has to happen, because the Ex-Im Bank must help all U.S. businesses compete internationally.
How can we reform the Ex-Im Bank while maintaining its mission of promoting American exports? For starters, here are three ideas:
• First, eliminate the financing of widebody aircraft for creditworthy foreign, state-owned or state-supported airlines.
• Second, require that the Ex-Im Bank conduct impact studies to make sure its financing of purchases by foreign companies does not have a negative effect on American companies.
• Third, expand the focus of the bank to emphasize the small U.S. businesses that have demonstrated an actual need for support.
What about Boeing? Just like the airlines, Boeing is a national asset and, along with all U.S. manufacturers, plays a critical role in maintaining American leadership in the world economy, defending our country and its allies and creating and maintaining U.S. jobs.
Many of the Air Line Pilots Association’s more than 51,000 pilot members proudly operate Boeing aircraft on the routes we fly. U.S. airlines and Boeing share a common desire to compete and prevail in the marketplace.
But all of us must be allowed to compete on a level playing field. If the international aviation market is allowed to function without market-distorting subsidies, there is no doubt that Boeing products will continue be flown the world over, preferably by well-trained American pilots working for profitable U.S. airlines, supporting jobs and communities, like Minneapolis, here in the United States.
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Old 09-11-2014, 08:17 AM
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WASHINGTON — House Republicans moved Tuesday to extend the authority of the Export-Import Bank this month as part of a government-wide funding bill needed to prevent a shutdown at month's end.

Republicans unveiled the measure, which would extend the bank's charter through June 30, 2015, late Tuesday. House Speaker John Boehner, R-Ohio, had telegraphed the move earlier in the day when he told reporters that even a powerful foe of the bank, Financial Services Committee Chairman Jeb Hensarling, R-Texas, believed a temporary extension was in order.

The bank, which helps finance foreign purchases of U.S. exports, has badly divided Republicans, with many conservatives favoring letting its charter expire. But it has widespread support from Democrats and traditional pro-business Republicans. Democrats failed in an attempt to pressure GOP leaders into passing a long-term, five-year extension of the bank.

"I'm working with Chairman Hensarling. He thinks a temporary extension of the Export-Import Bank is in order," Boehner said.

A short-term renewal of the bank's charter would give lawmakers more time to try to forge consensus on whether to pass a long-term extension of the bank while overhauling its powers. Some Republicans said an extension into June would provide an even playing field for opponents and supporters of the bank to make their case.
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Old 09-11-2014, 08:33 AM
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Originally Posted by Roadkill View Post
is it just me, or do the trips REALLLLLY suck for Oct???
I'm thinking they must have plugged in the new "5:15 ADG" parameters into carmen for Oct to start that thing churning out trips that would actually block that much every day... WOW do the trips stink this month! I'm seeing 7+hour block 3 legs on 80% of the last days.

I'm surprised no one has been talking about the new trip construction to meet the Nov ADG deal, the trips are so much worse.

eeeeeeyup. Sometimes we have to be careful what we ax for....
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Old 09-11-2014, 08:34 AM
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Originally Posted by Purple Drank View Post
Well if you have to use that simile, then I guess you have never known someone who experienced a violent sexual attack.

Unsat

At least he didn't reference a cheerleader pic.
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Old 09-11-2014, 08:38 AM
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Originally Posted by Sink r8 View Post
I'm glad this topic came up, because it probably didn't get sufficiently covered in 2010-2013.

Did anyone get screwed in the merger?
The thing that brought this up was someone talking about what someone with a DOH of XXXX could hold. I responded that that was irrelevant, got an earful from him, and all this angst resulted. The fact is though, that DOH IS irrelevant to what someone can hold in the post merger environment no matter how butthurt 1067 gets in being asked about that fact. I'd just rather relevant and useful information be put out, that's all, especially to someone not yet hired.
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