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Old 10-13-2014 | 06:27 PM
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Originally Posted by Erdude32
Wow, you're WAY off on this one Buzz. Since 1947 we've given 120.4 BILLION to Israel. 3.1B of which was just last year.

Source: Home | Jewish Virtual Library
I was referencing annul contributions. And as your post shows, its an average of less than $1 billion per year.

But to my point: Israel is our only ally in the Middle East yet we also contribute millions to our non-allies like Egypt, Jordan, Saudi Arabia and Iraq. Why don't you list those numbers?
Old 10-13-2014 | 06:28 PM
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Originally Posted by EdGrimley
Carl, did you take the -8 for a spin?

Hey, cut me some slack. There was a 10 knot crosswind!

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Old 10-13-2014 | 07:11 PM
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Originally Posted by Carl Spackler
Hey, cut me some slack. There was a 10 knot crosswind!

Carl
Looks like the first engine out I did in the sim on Fifi. Churning butter with the stick!

I wonder if they had to go and buy the deluxe model kneepads on their drive home?
Old 10-13-2014 | 07:47 PM
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Originally Posted by buzzpat
Whoa big boy. Pull your throttles back a little. Before someone hast to do it for you.
Fair enough. I should not have called a bunch of people I don't know idiots. I guess I just get a tad frustrated at this message sometimes with all the off topic stuff. But I accept the public whippings about my original idiotic comments. Apologies.

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Old 10-13-2014 | 08:05 PM
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Originally Posted by C130
Fair enough. I should not have called a bunch of people I don't know idiots. I guess I just get a tad frustrated at this message sometimes with all the off topic stuff. But I accept the public whippings about my original idiotic comments. Apologies.
Accepted. And please know this: you're new to Delta and this thread dates back to 2007. There are guys here who frequent the thread often and there is a style and culture. Their backgrounds are indisputed. Soon, you'll want to wish to know them.

A lot of us know each other.. No doubt, we will know you soon.

As a former military guy, please accept my advice. Keep your mouth shut, soak up indoc and bust your ass. It's different, dude, it's different. You don't know what you don't know.

Dial it down. Send me a PM if you want some clarification.
Old 10-13-2014 | 08:43 PM
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Originally Posted by Amish Pilot
Just reviewing the 2015 Enrollment Handbook, They are really pushing the HSAs accounts and left out the DPMP option. I know that I am one of the few that uses the contactual Delta Pilots Medical Plan, but would like to see a apples to apples comparison.
Heyas Amish,

With one exception (a near disastrous experiment with a HMO plan back in the day), I've been on the DPMP, "Option N", and the NWA Contract Plan before that.

I've always been very happy, with zero surprises, and minimal paperwork, number crunching or money juggling. It always seemed too important to jack around with. I make an appointment with the DR, I go, they pay. Same with the meds.

I vastly preferred BCBS as the administrator, but I haven't run into too many problems with UHC, and, in fact, they approved some items pretty quickly when I had my doubts. I haven't had any in-network/out of network issues (with the one exception of Physical Therapy providers).

I had one medium-ish surgery, one medium-ish out-patient procedure, and a pooper-snoop, and everything was covered with no hassles, including multiple MRI's, CT's, X-rays, and all the happy fun time that goes with that. My experience echoes yours to a T. In all cases I picked the Doc, Surgeon or specialist directly with zero hassle. I see absolutely no reason to change.

Disclaimer: Not married, no kids, no recurring medical issues or long-term prescription needs. Obviously not many fall into this category, so YMMV, DYODD.

Nu

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Old 10-13-2014 | 08:56 PM
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I've been on it since they were using leeches, I just have never seen such poor numbers before.
Old 10-13-2014 | 09:05 PM
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Originally Posted by formerdal
You got that backwards...DPMP is the medical plan.
Whoops. Need to proof read better. Thanks you are absolutely correct
Old 10-13-2014 | 10:16 PM
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Originally Posted by C130
Fair enough. I should not have called a bunch of people I don't know idiots. I guess I just get a tad frustrated at this message sometimes with all the off topic stuff. But I accept the public whippings about my original idiotic comments. Apologies.
No worries C130. Welcome to Delta!
Old 10-13-2014 | 10:20 PM
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Originally Posted by NuGuy
Heyas Amish,

With one exception (a near disastrous experiment with a HMO plan back in the day), I've been on the DPMP, "Option N", and the NWA Contract Plan before that.

I've always been very happy, with zero surprises, and minimal paperwork, number crunching or money juggling. It always seemed too important to jack around with. I make an appointment with the DR, I go, they pay. Same with the meds.

I vastly preferred BCBS as the administrator, but I haven't run into too many problems with UHC, and, in fact, they approved some items pretty quickly when I had my doubts. I haven't had any in-network/out of network issues (with the one exception of Physical Therapy providers).

I had one medium-ish surgery, one medium-ish out-patient procedure, and a pooper-snoop, and everything was covered with no hassles, including multiple MRI's, CT's, X-rays, and all the happy fun time that goes with that. My experience echoes yours to a T. In all cases I picked the Doc, Surgeon or specialist directly with zero hassle. I see absolutely no reason to change.

Disclaimer: Not married, no kids, no recurring medical issues or long-term prescription needs. Obviously not many fall into this category, so YMMV, DYODD.

Nu
Holy crap, really? You must have all tne money!

If I see you in NRT, you're buyin.

Carl
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