Any "Latest & Greatest" about Delta?
12-09-2014 | 06:46 PM
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From: Skinny girl. Long legs. Big engines.
Here's the readers digest version of this:
1. Joint Ventures make Delta a HUGE amount of net profit.
2. Our union's main thesis is that increased profitability leads to increased good things for pilots.
3. Management doesn't have to negotiate any JV agreements whatsoever...but they do have to abide by our overall Scope language that mandates maintaining a block hour percentage equal to what existed prior to any JV.
4. Our union feels it's a better tactic to give up a portion of our flying share in order to achieve new contract language that provides for new minimum levels that didn't exist before. Even if those new minimum "guarantees" represent a reduction of what we're presently doing.
5. Our union is very concerned that pilots will be angry if they learn we're giving up part of what we're doing now in order to have a lower guarantee that didn't exist before.
6. Council 44 and the MEC administration do not want a repeat of the FAR 117 process whereby members forced the negotiating committee back to the table.
7. Council 44 and the MEC administration have decided the best way to prevent a repeat of the FAR 117 process is to hide key data from the membership until after the TA is passed.
8. Council 44 and the MEC administration didn't think someone like Georgrtg could pull the data together in time to affect the outcome.
9. After TA passes, Council 44 and the MEC administration will strongly focus on the new global flying share minimum that was supposedly achieved and tell the whiners to get more involved in the process next time.
Carl
1. Joint Ventures make Delta a HUGE amount of net profit.
2. Our union's main thesis is that increased profitability leads to increased good things for pilots.
3. Management doesn't have to negotiate any JV agreements whatsoever...but they do have to abide by our overall Scope language that mandates maintaining a block hour percentage equal to what existed prior to any JV.
4. Our union feels it's a better tactic to give up a portion of our flying share in order to achieve new contract language that provides for new minimum levels that didn't exist before. Even if those new minimum "guarantees" represent a reduction of what we're presently doing.
5. Our union is very concerned that pilots will be angry if they learn we're giving up part of what we're doing now in order to have a lower guarantee that didn't exist before.
6. Council 44 and the MEC administration do not want a repeat of the FAR 117 process whereby members forced the negotiating committee back to the table.
7. Council 44 and the MEC administration have decided the best way to prevent a repeat of the FAR 117 process is to hide key data from the membership until after the TA is passed.
8. Council 44 and the MEC administration didn't think someone like Georgrtg could pull the data together in time to affect the outcome.
9. After TA passes, Council 44 and the MEC administration will strongly focus on the new global flying share minimum that was supposedly achieved and tell the whiners to get more involved in the process next time.
Carl
Your not a council 44 member. Its funny how when I contact my council 44 folks I get a response. I just don't post info on a web site when asked not too. Maybe you don't get a response because your NOT in my council!!! I am very grateful that YOUR council posts as much as they do publicly. Thank you for sharing that information. Many of us, including myself, don't bother to search out other councils emails even though its easy enough to find on the dalpa website.
Try to read my post with sincerity. Its hard to get that across with the written word.
12-09-2014 | 06:51 PM
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From: 747-400 Captain
Carl,
Your not a council 44 member. Its funny how when I contact my council 44 folks I get a response. I just don't post info on a web site when asked not too. Maybe you don't get a response because your NOT in my council!!! I am very grateful that YOUR council posts as much as they do publicly. Thank you for sharing that information. Many of us, including myself, don't bother to search out other councils emails even though its easy enough to find on the dalpa website.
Try to read my post with sincerity. Its hard to get that across with the written word.
Your not a council 44 member. Its funny how when I contact my council 44 folks I get a response. I just don't post info on a web site when asked not too. Maybe you don't get a response because your NOT in my council!!! I am very grateful that YOUR council posts as much as they do publicly. Thank you for sharing that information. Many of us, including myself, don't bother to search out other councils emails even though its easy enough to find on the dalpa website.
Try to read my post with sincerity. Its hard to get that across with the written word.
Carl
12-09-2014 | 06:59 PM
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Purchasing an asset does not reduce your income. Paying business expenses reduces your income.
12-09-2014 | 07:08 PM
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12-09-2014 | 07:18 PM
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Here's the readers digest version of this:
1. Joint Ventures make Delta a HUGE amount of net profit.
2. Our union's main thesis is that increased profitability leads to increased good things for pilots.
3. Management doesn't have to negotiate any JV agreements whatsoever...but they do have to abide by our overall Scope language that mandates maintaining a block hour percentage equal to what existed prior to any JV.
4. Our union feels it's a better tactic to give up a portion of our flying share in order to achieve new contract language that provides for new minimum levels that didn't exist before. Even if those new minimum "guarantees" represent a reduction of what we're presently doing.
5. Our union is very concerned that pilots will be angry if they learn we're giving up part of what we're doing now in order to have a lower guarantee that didn't exist before.
6. Council 44 and the MEC administration do not want a repeat of the FAR 117 process whereby members forced the negotiating committee back to the table.
7. Council 44 and the MEC administration have decided the best way to prevent a repeat of the FAR 117 process is to hide key data from the membership until after the TA is passed.
8. Council 44 and the MEC administration didn't think someone like Georgrtg could pull the data together in time to affect the outcome.
9. After TA passes, Council 44 and the MEC administration will strongly focus on the new global flying share minimum that was supposedly achieved and tell the whiners to get more involved in the process next time.
Carl
1. Joint Ventures make Delta a HUGE amount of net profit.
2. Our union's main thesis is that increased profitability leads to increased good things for pilots.
3. Management doesn't have to negotiate any JV agreements whatsoever...but they do have to abide by our overall Scope language that mandates maintaining a block hour percentage equal to what existed prior to any JV.
4. Our union feels it's a better tactic to give up a portion of our flying share in order to achieve new contract language that provides for new minimum levels that didn't exist before. Even if those new minimum "guarantees" represent a reduction of what we're presently doing.
5. Our union is very concerned that pilots will be angry if they learn we're giving up part of what we're doing now in order to have a lower guarantee that didn't exist before.
6. Council 44 and the MEC administration do not want a repeat of the FAR 117 process whereby members forced the negotiating committee back to the table.
7. Council 44 and the MEC administration have decided the best way to prevent a repeat of the FAR 117 process is to hide key data from the membership until after the TA is passed.
8. Council 44 and the MEC administration didn't think someone like Georgrtg could pull the data together in time to affect the outcome.
9. After TA passes, Council 44 and the MEC administration will strongly focus on the new global flying share minimum that was supposedly achieved and tell the whiners to get more involved in the process next time.
Carl
Heresy is defined as, "Unverified information heard or received from another; rumor."
The MEC Chairman runs the Administration. Our MEC Chairman was nominated by a member of C20 (if I am not mistaken) and received a unanimous vote.
We have got a big contract coming up. Time to pull together.
Last edited by Bucking Bar; 12-09-2014 at 07:56 PM.
12-09-2014 | 07:41 PM
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Our profit sharing is pretty well locked up. There is nothing the company can do to reduce our profit sharing check other than not make money. Alpa actually learned from past profit sharing mistakes. Fortunately when this language was negotiated, the company was losing it's ass. The joke was on us for wanting profit sharing from a bankrupt company. This allowed us to write really strong language. I have also heard from pilots that the early October payout was to reduce the profits for the year. That is a false statement.
12-09-2014 | 08:13 PM
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Who is this, what's your operating number?
Boring conversation anyway....LUKE WE'RE GONNA HAVE COMPANY!!
Boring conversation anyway....LUKE WE'RE GONNA HAVE COMPANY!!
12-09-2014 | 08:15 PM
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New hire here.
I have my CQ training in January and looking for some ideas on how to bid the rest of my schedule.
I'm not totally up-to-speed on how the Raw Scores work, but is it common for guys to bid reserve during their training month. I'm on the 73 and if I bid reserve I would be fairly high on the list for reserve guys.
Thanks!
MCFlyer
I have my CQ training in January and looking for some ideas on how to bid the rest of my schedule.
I'm not totally up-to-speed on how the Raw Scores work, but is it common for guys to bid reserve during their training month. I'm on the 73 and if I bid reserve I would be fairly high on the list for reserve guys.
Thanks!
MCFlyer
12-09-2014 | 09:10 PM
meh
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Jumpseat help please!
I need to list for a Frontier flight.
I went to the ALPA jumpseat page and read how to do it, then went to the site:
ifc.id90.com
and entered the username and password that ALPA says to use on their "jumpseat information" page (jumpseatinfo.org/jumpseatresources )
CANT LOG IN! This seems to happen every time I try to use this POC id90 site. I seem to recall getting an email sometime recently with specifics for frontier js listing, but can't find it and the ALPA stuff doesnt work.
Any help would be appreciated, PM me!
RK
EDIT-------Nevermind... I putzed around and entered the code they gave us for AA, it worked. Also, the cass/non-cass listing code they gave a bunch of info on at the ALPA site doesn't work, it lists you incorrectly with the tool anyways, no chance to choose. We'll see how it works.
Anyone ever js on Frontier before, how did it go, and gotchas?
I need to list for a Frontier flight.
I went to the ALPA jumpseat page and read how to do it, then went to the site:
ifc.id90.com
and entered the username and password that ALPA says to use on their "jumpseat information" page (jumpseatinfo.org/jumpseatresources )
CANT LOG IN! This seems to happen every time I try to use this POC id90 site. I seem to recall getting an email sometime recently with specifics for frontier js listing, but can't find it and the ALPA stuff doesnt work.
Any help would be appreciated, PM me!
RK
EDIT-------Nevermind... I putzed around and entered the code they gave us for AA, it worked. Also, the cass/non-cass listing code they gave a bunch of info on at the ALPA site doesn't work, it lists you incorrectly with the tool anyways, no chance to choose. We'll see how it works.
Anyone ever js on Frontier before, how did it go, and gotchas?
Last edited by Roadkill; 12-09-2014 at 09:40 PM.
12-09-2014 | 09:32 PM
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