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Old 12-18-2014, 12:59 PM
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Done and thanks again, this is a huge help. It is amazing how much I don't know I don't know.
While you are commuting on reserve I would personal drop a lot. You are not getting paid that much anyway. You lose the pay for that day. Make sure however you selected personal drop. There is also authorized leave but that is a silver bullet you only get once each year. For your JAN schedule move your off days into big blocks and personal drop two or three days. You will find it very tolerable. At about 5:10 EST you should know if your drop for the 20th is approved.
On 20 DEC they will start running drops and swaps every 5 hours as mentioned for next month. You can work miracles if you understand the system. Get on the DALPA site and find the how to swap on reserve tutorial.
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Old 12-18-2014, 01:01 PM
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Originally Posted by Carl Spackler View Post
You were never a DPA supporter Dorfman, we've been over this. You're a DALPA guy through and through. Which is fine. I'm glad your happy with them.

Regarding Heiko, I don't recall a single post from DPA ever criticizing him. He was a relatively new guy there anyway.

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I was and here's the deal I will make. I will give you my name via pm if you reciprocate back and you can go check the cards. I was on board with DPA early on. I liked the initial platform of us keeping more of our money, separate representation from RJs, and getting rid of some of the bloating waste in ALPA. TC lost it with his tone and style of updates and turned me off.

I am not happy or unhappy with ALPA on every issue but DPA just has not proven they are a good option. As for DPA being critical of Hieko as has been pointed out he was a long time negotiator and DPA has been critical of the team as a whole.
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Old 12-18-2014, 01:45 PM
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Investigate=bury
I recall the resolution calling for our paycheck on 30th to be half the guarantee, instead of the token amount paid under the legacy Delta system, as being instructions for the MEC chair to "investigate" changes.

I also recall you complaining about resolutions that were "received" as being buried.

DPA is spewing lies, and I don't see you calling them out on it. Is it because you still have a rollaboard full of DPA cards and stickers?
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Old 12-18-2014, 01:59 PM
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Originally Posted by MikeF16 View Post
Thanks for the opinion. My take is that as long as I wouldn't be involuntarily displaced, I don't think it would be horrible to be the plug as long as I lived in domicile. While I like money as much as the next guy, I could be happy just pulling in reserve guarantee for a couple years if it meant I'd have lots of free time to enjoy my family and the outdoors. As a new guy who really doesn't have any concept of life as the plug, would that be a fairly accurate assessment?

My wife followed me for 16 years in the AF so I promised her she could pick any domicile where I could hold an airframe. She has given me the options of Seattle and Atlanta. I currently live in San Antonio and hate how I'm basically a prisoner in my own home for 5-6 months of the year due to the heat/humidity and I don't see that being any different in Atlanta. Due to kids in school we need to move this summer or not at all, and even on positive space I don't like commuting which means we are definitely moving this summer. If I can't get SEA on the January AE then it is unlikely I'd be able to get there any time soon anyway so I feel like this is my one shot to break free of the south .

As for the new category, tell me about it . I'm ecstatic to have been hired by DAL, but my 717 NYC reserve schedule in January will not be one of my selling points to the bros who are asking about staying in/getting out. I think it would sting a lot less if my goofy reserve schedule was spent sitting at home with the family rather than commuting back and forth to the crash pad.
Does the USAF still owe you a terminal move?

Living in domicile is a life changer on many levels.
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Old 12-18-2014, 02:33 PM
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Originally Posted by sailingfun View Post
While you are commuting on reserve I would personal drop a lot. You are not getting paid that much anyway. You lose the pay for that day. Make sure however you selected personal drop. There is also authorized leave but that is a silver bullet you only get once each year. For your JAN schedule move your off days into big blocks and personal drop two or three days. You will find it very tolerable. At about 5:10 EST you should know if your drop for the 20th is approved.
On 20 DEC they will start running drops and swaps every 5 hours as mentioned for next month. You can work miracles if you understand the system. Get on the DALPA site and find the how to swap on reserve tutorial.
Hey, I think you might have just made my kind of miserable Jan schedule look a hell of a lot better. Or at least gave me hope.

Thanks for the guidance
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Old 12-18-2014, 02:42 PM
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Originally Posted by sailingfun View Post
While you are commuting on reserve I would personal drop a lot. You are not getting paid that much anyway. You lose the pay for that day. Make sure however you selected personal drop. There is also authorized leave but that is a silver bullet you only get once each year. For your JAN schedule move your off days into big blocks and personal drop two or three days. You will find it very tolerable. At about 5:10 EST you should know if your drop for the 20th is approved.
On 20 DEC they will start running drops and swaps every 5 hours as mentioned for next month. You can work miracles if you understand the system. Get on the DALPA site and find the how to swap on reserve tutorial.
I dropped a couple of reserve days last month. @ approx $700 each it really hurt my paycheck. You make it sound like there isn't much of a pay hit for dropping a reserve day. There is
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Old 12-18-2014, 02:55 PM
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I dropped a couple of reserve days last month. @ approx $700 each it really hurt my paycheck. You make it sound like there isn't much of a pay hit for dropping a reserve day. There is
It's a much smaller $$ hit for the guys on 1st year pay though.
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Old 12-18-2014, 03:00 PM
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Originally Posted by Delta1067 View Post
I dropped a couple of reserve days last month. @ approx $700 each it really hurt my paycheck. You make it sound like there isn't much of a pay hit for dropping a reserve day. There is

Yeah, but it "hurts" a lot less on 1st year pay.

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Old 12-18-2014, 03:00 PM
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Originally Posted by MikeF16 View Post
my 717 NYC reserve schedule in January will not be one of my selling points to the bros who are asking about staying in/getting out. I think it would sting a lot less if my goofy reserve schedule was spent sitting at home with the family rather than commuting back and forth to the crash pad.
No matter how bad it is now, unless we somehow instantly stop hiring, you'll have more below you in a year than some pilots had in way over a decade. GREAT time to be getting on. And whatever you do, please do not float the flash in the pan new category (NYC717) first time plug schedule as "the example" of what airline life or life as a DL pilot is without adding in so many qualifiers it basically doesn't make it worth telling in the first place.

And ATL isn't that bad. It gets hot and humid in the summer but IMO not nearly as bad or as much as SAT. If you can handle a little bit of a drive (1-1.5hrs no traffic) you can get into some great foothills country with awesome outdoor QOL in my opinion.

SEA is pretty great too though.
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Old 12-18-2014, 03:07 PM
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I dropped a couple of reserve days last month. @ approx $700 each it really hurt my paycheck. You make it sound like there isn't much of a pay hit for dropping a reserve day. There is
Not if your on first year pay and retired military. You can also make the time up from your bank and repay the bank when your a line holder.
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