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Old 12-18-2014, 11:45 AM
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Originally Posted by Carl Spackler View Post
You were never a DPA supporter Dorfman, we've been over this. You're a DALPA guy through and through. Which is fine. I'm glad your happy with them.

Regarding Heiko, I don't recall a single post from DPA ever criticizing him. He was a relatively new guy there anyway.

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Heiko is not new. He has been a negotiator for most of the last 5 years.
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Old 12-18-2014, 11:48 AM
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Thanks guys I had no idea I could PD or swap reserve days, I thought that was only for line holders. I could turn 21 days in the crash pad into about 17 if I can line up my reserve days.
If you're NYC 717, you can drop your whole month. You won't get paid though if you do that. There are guys at this company that do go months without a paycheck or with very small paychecks to run other businesses. I am not one of them. I spend my spare time drinking beer and playing hockey.
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Old 12-18-2014, 11:59 AM
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Originally Posted by hockeypilot44 View Post
If you're NYC 717, you can drop your whole month. You won't get paid though if you do that. There are guys at this company that do go months without a paycheck or with very small paychecks to run other businesses. I am not one of them. I spend my spare time drinking beer and playing hockey.
Do you know how long the turn around on a PD is? I've got a single day of reserve on the 20th, and my flight to be in position leaves about 1pm tomorrow. If I PD'd now would I know before boarding my flight if it was approved or not?
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Old 12-18-2014, 12:03 PM
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Do you know how long the turn around on a PD is? I've got a single day of reserve on the 20th, and my flight to be in position leaves about 1pm tomorrow. If I PD'd now would I know before boarding my flight if it was approved or not?
I don't think you can PD or swap a reserve day unless it is a minimum of 2 days ahead of time. IOW, you can't drop or swap tomorrows reserve day, I think.
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Old 12-18-2014, 12:04 PM
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Originally Posted by RonRicco View Post
Heiko is not new. He has been a negotiator for most of the last 5 years.
He was an addition to this negotiating committee after the MEC administration purge from the C2012 debacle. He was new to this negotiating committee, not new to union negotiations. Didn't intend to infer otherwise. The point was that I don't recall any DPA post that criticized him.

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Old 12-18-2014, 12:28 PM
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Originally Posted by Carl Spackler View Post
He was an addition to this negotiating committee after the MEC administration purge from the C2012 debacle. He was new to this negotiating committee, not new to union negotiations. Didn't intend to infer otherwise. The point was that I don't recall any DPA post that criticized him.

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Gotcha.

In that sense then I guess he and the chairman were both new as Coons was the only continuos participant. Heiko was not elected after the "swift boating" election and was out for a year or thereabouts.

It will be interesting to see who pops up in this "crisis." My guess is you are about to see some VERY familiar names pushed. If they would have stuck with 4, this would not be as time critical as it is now.

How this negotiators election goes will go a long way in determining my confidence level for 2015.
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Old 12-18-2014, 12:36 PM
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Life is grand! 3 commutes a month with a rotation falling into carry over for the next month for lots of days off in the month. Turning 2 weeks of vacation into a full month off on a NB...hoping it will be X 2 next year. One man's garbage is another man's gold!
You must not be on the 88........
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Old 12-18-2014, 12:42 PM
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Do you know how long the turn around on a PD is? I've got a single day of reserve on the 20th, and my flight to be in position leaves about 1pm tomorrow. If I PD'd now would I know before boarding my flight if it was approved or not?
Put your personal drop in now. It will be run at 5 pm EST. Requests are run every 5 hours between 7am and 11pm.
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Old 12-18-2014, 12:43 PM
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It also says:

"New...category means, for the purposes of Section 22, a category that has not been in existence for 60 days since the date of the first opportunity for the first conversion"

So you might get another bite at the apple if there is another immediate AE the following month. I'm not sure though. New categories coupled with almost constant mothly AE's is somewhat uncharted territory so I hesitate to say for sure. Normally in most cases you only got 1 chance to bid it but in this case you may get 2 depending on the frequency of the AE's in conjunction with the new category.

That said, it really doesn't matter because you're either going to get it or you're not if you have a bid in for it, and you should NEVER have an AE/VD bid in for something you don't want or even want less than what you currently have. In your case that also means don't have a bid in unless you're willing to be the plug…possibly for a while. If that bothers you, throw in a percentage qualifier. However if you do that, you need to be OK with not getting it when you could have been the plug.

Just to muddy the mud even more, the flying in new categories tends to suck for a while. However the first attempt might be your only way in for a long time, precicely because more senior pilots who want it, and intend to bid it in the future, may bypass on the first attempt. That could get you a plug position, but then on future AE's here come the senior bidders "pushing you down" and keeping you the plug, possibly for years.

Do not bid it unless you want it. If you want it, don't forget to bid it.

All true and very good advice. I will add to it in that in the future with growth aircraft, hiring, and retirements even if you are the plug it probably wouldn't be for long.

Hopefully the days of stagnation are behind us and we will see continual and steady movement.

This could however all change by tomorrow.

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Old 12-18-2014, 12:46 PM
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Put your personal drop in now. It will be run at 5 pm EST. Requests are run every 5 hours between 7am and 11pm.
Done and thanks again, this is a huge help. It is amazing how much I don't know I don't know.
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