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Old 11-10-2009 | 02:36 PM
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Originally Posted by RockyBoy
I really don't want PBS to build me a schedule worth 65 hours of credit and 12 days off.
At 5:15 per day, you hit 68:15 in 13 duty periods....

(I'd like to see 6:00hrs. per calendar day OR duty period, whichever is greater.)


5:15 Per day/duty period
63:00 in 12 days
73:30 in 14 days
5:30 Per day/duty period
66:00 in 12 days
77:00 in 14 days
5:45 Per day/duty period
69:00 in 12 days
80:30 in 14 days
6:00 Per day/duty period
72:00 in 12 days
84:00 in 14 days
Old 11-10-2009 | 02:40 PM
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Originally Posted by whitt767
This is exactly what I worry about. More pilots and the same amount of flying. Its the worst of both worlds....Pilots get paid less and company has to pay more for the same flying. I don't have a good feeling about this...
I was wondering the same thing and I'm sure someones alternative will be "raise ticket prices!" But if prices go up demand goes down and we don't need as many people. If prices don't go up then we end up costing too much and we either get cut again or farmed out. Seems like it eventually gets us back to square uno.

But that doesn't take into account the effect on the regionals, especially those that thrive on max duty day flying. If their costs increase substantially then it could make them so inefficient that flying is shifted back to mainline and thus a win for mainline pilots and RJ pilots with a mainline goal. Then again...
Old 11-10-2009 | 02:41 PM
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Originally Posted by Denny Crane
Also, when bidding reserve in PBS, do you bid all 12 or 13 days off or just a few crucial ones or layer your bid with all then down to crucial? One last question. When you bid in the "start reserve" group, do you do it with the "prefer off" option?
I'm getting reserve on the ER in NYC, here's what my bid for November was:
Code:
  38.   Start Reserve
  39.     Set Condition Pattern Between 4 and 7 Days On, 
           with 3 Days Off (Minimum) Else Start Next
  40.     Prefer Off Nov 1, 2009
  41.     Prefer Off Nov 26, 2009, Nov 27, 2009, Nov 28, 2009, 
           Nov 29, 2009, Nov 25, 2009, Nov 30, 2009
  42.     Prefer Off Nov 17, 2009
  43.     Prefer Off Nov 14, 2009, Nov 15, 2009
  44.     Prefer Off Nov 21, 2009, Nov 22, 2009
  45.     Prefer Off Nov 7, 2009, Nov 8, 2009
  46.     Prefer Off Between Friday And Sunday
I ended up with four blocks of days on, with 4 of my 6 prefer off blocks honored,
including Thanksgiving. I'm not that senior - 15 from the bottom or so.

I use the Pattern bid to avoid getting a large chunk of work days in a row.
Old 11-10-2009 | 02:41 PM
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I'd like to see credit for short call.
Old 11-10-2009 | 02:46 PM
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Tell Brian Craig. He wants low or no cost sked items to be the first thing he deals with!
Old 11-10-2009 | 02:51 PM
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Originally Posted by forgot to bid
I'd like to see credit for short call.
Roger that! And RAW score credit too. Of course I am on my second week in Ny with no call outs. I haven't piloted a heavier than air vehicle since 13 Oct. I have re-current the day after I go non current. How convenient...
Old 11-10-2009 | 03:00 PM
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Denny:
Here's a tip I've found useful-
An excellent way to learn how to bid is to look at the results from last month.
You can see exactly how every pilot bid and what they got as a result.

I would agree with the previous post about simplicity. The simpler bids tend to do well. Study the resaons reports and the wide reports. You'll be amazed how many guys screw themselves with complex bids.
Old 11-10-2009 | 03:01 PM
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Originally Posted by forgot to bid
I was wondering the same thing and I'm sure someones alternative will be "raise ticket prices!" But if prices go up demand goes down and we don't need as many people. If prices don't go up then we end up costing too much and we either get cut again or farmed out. Seems like it eventually gets us back to square uno.

But that doesn't take into account the effect on the regionals, especially those that thrive on max duty day flying. If their costs increase substantially then it could make them so inefficient that flying is shifted back to mainline and thus a win for mainline pilots and RJ pilots with a mainline goal. Then again...
add to that the upcoming attrition and you've got a lot of hiring in the next few years.
Old 11-10-2009 | 03:01 PM
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Originally Posted by Denny Crane
A question for all you reserve gurus. If the bid package says "min days on 4" and "max days on 99" and I am coming from a regular line in November will I be able to bid days off over 4,5,6 or will the "min days on 4" restrict me from getting the 4th off? Same thing but the end of the month, do I have to leave the last 4 days of the month on call or can I have x-days until the 28th and then be on call for 29,30,31 (with the possibility of Jan. 1 being the 4 day)?

I haven't bid reserve since it came to PBS. Any help would be appreciated!

Thanks,

Denny
What are you doing the 30th? If you are on duty, PBS will look back to ensure the 4 day requirement is met.

As for the last four days, you can be on call 1, 2, 3, etc on call. Again, the program will look back to the previous month when awarding your next months schedule (this is something that you want to keep in mind when bidding for a given month....if you need one of the first days off during a month, make sure that you are not on reserve for one day at the end of the previous month).

Hope this helps. You can PM me for more details if you like.
Old 11-10-2009 | 03:06 PM
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Originally Posted by Denny Crane

Also, when bidding reserve in PBS, do you bid all 12 or 13 days off or just a few crucial ones or layer your bid with all then down to crucial? One last question. When you bid in the "start reserve" group, do you do it with the "prefer off" option?

You can bid just a couple of days or you can prefer off 31 days. It really depends on what is important to you. Not sure what category you are in because the requirements are different (regarding min days on and max X day blocks). Keep in mind that the prefer off days have a left to right priority and the way reserve bids are awarded are often misunderstood. It will work left to right and try to give you the most satisfaction. I don't have time right now, but will give a better explanation as to how the reserve bids are processed (if you want).
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