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Old 03-20-2015 | 07:03 AM
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Originally Posted by Carl Spackler
What about this one: After the MEC finalized the opener in printed form, Richard Anderson and Michael Campbell (yes, that Michael Campbell) were briefed by the MEC...in closed session.

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So what?

If they present us with something that you don't like - which I would find hard to believe - just vote no. It really is that simple.
Old 03-20-2015 | 07:33 AM
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Originally Posted by 80ktsClamp
I honestly don't see any problem with this.
Me neither.

Maybe RA and his pals were there to show the ALPA finance guys that with oil supplies at an 80 year high, no room left to store any of it, refiners planning on shutting down within weeks due to nowhere to put refined product, that the price is going to hit $20/bbl by the end of the year.

Honestly, I don't think there has EVER been a more perfect time to negotiate a contract. Even with oil at $100/bbl we made 4.5 Billion. With oil entering a sustained low price environment, that number is gonna look like chump change in 2017.
Old 03-20-2015 | 08:38 AM
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Originally Posted by RockyBoy
Me neither.

Maybe RA and his pals were there to show the ALPA finance guys that with oil supplies at an 80 year high, no room left to store any of it, refiners planning on shutting down within weeks due to nowhere to put refined product, that the price is going to hit $20/bbl by the end of the year.

Honestly, I don't think there has EVER been a more perfect time to negotiate a contract. Even with oil at $100/bbl we made 4.5 Billion. With oil entering a sustained low price environment, that number is gonna look like chump change in 2017.

I suspect you will have a email this afternoon discussing why management was at the meeting.
Old 03-20-2015 | 08:53 AM
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Originally Posted by RockyBoy
Me neither.

Maybe RA and his pals were there to show the ALPA finance guys that with oil supplies at an 80 year high, no room left to store any of it, refiners planning on shutting down within weeks due to nowhere to put refined product, that the price is going to hit $20/bbl by the end of the year.

Honestly, I don't think there has EVER been a more perfect time to negotiate a contract. Even with oil at $100/bbl we made 4.5 Billion. With oil entering a sustained low price environment, that number is gonna look like chump change in 2017.
Waiting for the "We can't afford to give you payrates like that" argument. "You see, fuel is our biggest expense and with the price coming down like it has we see an opportunity for huge stock price increases which combined with our stock options and bonuses will reap incredible windfalls for executives, so you must understand how we can't afford the payrates you're asking for."
Old 03-20-2015 | 09:10 AM
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If the G/S trigger is 75.00, and I have 71.00 hrs of credit, plus my 2-day sim, is that the same as meeting the trigger...or do I have to pick up a one-day trip? The line that says "credit applicable to Reg g/s pay" says 78.

Thanks!
Old 03-20-2015 | 09:17 AM
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No need to pick up....your GS is double pay for the entire amount.

Originally Posted by illini90
If the G/S trigger is 75.00, and I have 71.00 hrs of credit, plus my 2-day sim, is that the same as meeting the trigger...or do I have to pick up a one-day trip? The line that says "credit applicable to Reg g/s pay" says 78.

Thanks!
Old 03-20-2015 | 09:20 AM
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Originally Posted by illini90
If the G/S trigger is 75.00, and I have 71.00 hrs of credit, plus my 2-day sim, is that the same as meeting the trigger...or do I have to pick up a one-day trip? The line that says "credit applicable to Reg g/s pay" says 78.

Thanks!


Check your time card - it continuously updates your GS trigger. If in fact your trigger is 71 you can either withdraw 4 hours from the bank or WS a trip. Either will ensure your GS pays 200% for the whole trip.

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Old 03-20-2015 | 09:24 AM
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I might have jumped the gun....If you don't already have a GS and you subsequently pick up a Greeny, the entire thing will pay double.

Not sure if you already had a GS when you originally posted.

Originally Posted by Scoop
Check your time card - it continuously updates your GS trigger. If in fact your trigger is 71 you can either withdraw 4 hours from the bank or WS a trip. Either will ensure your GS pays 200% for the whole trip.

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Old 03-20-2015 | 09:57 AM
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I don't have one yet, but I want to make sure I get paid double if I do get one. My G/S Trigger says 75.0, my credit is 71, and my "credit applicable to g/s pay" is 78. I just want to make sure I don't have to get my actual credit to 75 before I get double pay (or asked another way...does the sim count towards the trigger?)...thanks!!
Old 03-20-2015 | 11:11 AM
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Originally Posted by sailingfun
I suspect you will have a email this afternoon discussing why management was at the meeting.
They were there to manage because management is going to management.
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