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Old 03-23-2015 | 07:31 AM
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Beginning April 1, FA training pay goes to 4:45. Any chance we'll get a 'me too' on that one??
Old 03-23-2015 | 07:54 AM
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Originally Posted by flyallnite
Beginning April 1, FA training pay goes to 4:45. Any chance we'll get a 'me too' on that one??
Really?!!
What is it today?
Old 03-23-2015 | 07:57 AM
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Originally Posted by Raging white
Really?!!
What is it today?
I believe it's 3:45 until April 1. They have different pay for travel days, so it's really only a good deal for those who live in a base with a training center. But nevertheless, 4:45 whereas we are paid 3:45.
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What was the pay / QoL on the PA-30?

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Old 03-23-2015 | 09:36 AM
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What was the pay / QoL on the PA-30?

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those guys in the c46 were dog cussIng that outsourcing.
Old 03-23-2015 | 09:39 AM
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Originally Posted by NuGuy
What was the pay / QoL on the PA-30?

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You can't see if from that angle, but that PA-30 says South West on the side.

He's hustling out, going V1, trying to cut off both the Delta and United aircraft, probably got a load of kittens on board!
Old 03-23-2015 | 09:54 AM
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Originally Posted by Mesabah
You just don't lock in prices, someone is on the opposite end of the trade. At $20bbl, Delta would have to buy call options, and then could lose billions when the price of oil doesn't go up enough. The best way to hedge is to not do it at all. Hedging is no different than putting $1 billion on black at a roulette table in Vegas.
It's not quite like routlette.

I think over the long term a fuel hedging strategy will even out the highs and lows of fuel costs making it easier to predict costs. You won't always be on the winning or losing end of the deal, but on average you will be just as well off as someone who has not hedged and you will have a more predictable number for cost estimates.
Old 03-23-2015 | 10:01 AM
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Originally Posted by RockyBoy
It's not quite like routlette.

I think over the long term a fuel hedging strategy will even out the highs and lows of fuel costs making it easier to predict costs. You won't always be on the winning or losing end of the deal, but on average you will be just as well off as someone who has not hedged and you will have a more predictable number for cost estimates.
I feel it is still gambling, and too risky, especially when the people on the other side of the trade are basically criminal market manipulators.
Old 03-23-2015 | 10:12 AM
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Originally Posted by Mesabah
I feel it is still gambling, and too risky, especially when the people on the other side of the trade are basically criminal market manipulators.
Not hedging has been Dougie's strategy, and right now he looks like a genius. But what if the price goes up? It's not really gambling, but more like insurance. I have no problem with it personally. It's just a cost of doing business when you spend the kinds of money we do on fuel. Sometimes you are the windshield, sometimes you're the bug. We own a refinery. We are on the other side of that table now.
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Originally Posted by Mesabah
I feel it is still gambling, and too risky, especially when the people on the other side of the trade are basically criminal market manipulators.
I agree with you on the traders being market manipulators for their gain. Funny thing is some of those firms are now being forced to take delivery of oil contracts they paid close to $90 for. They are scrambling to find ships to store the oil in until prices come back up.

Storage issues are going to be what runs prices down to the $20's. Most forecasts have oil at $35 in June. Even with all the idled rigs, capacity is still increasing in the U.S. as companies are pumping as fast as they can to try and get it at $45 to pay debt and avoid bankruptcy. The worst is really yet to come in the U.S. oil industry.
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