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04-06-2015 | 05:43 AM
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From: 73N FO
Check the military leave handbook located under admin and leaves of absence on Deltanet-- a lot of good info in there and it spells out benefits retained based on number of days on Mil Leave. Short answer is that you are still in CASS while on mil leave at Delta so you can Jumpseat as long as you have a current medical.
04-06-2015 | 06:00 AM
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I was told as a new hire that it is a willful disregard of the contract to give up a DH seat. We negotiated the seat, the company expects us to sit in the seat, and don't go around violating the contract just to help out the company.
Now, how we apply the contract seems to be an individual thing. Some take a more literal stance than others. You want to give up or concede some part of it, fine. But then, do you really have any ground to complain when another individual decides to do the same, but with another area?
Now, how we apply the contract seems to be an individual thing. Some take a more literal stance than others. You want to give up or concede some part of it, fine. But then, do you really have any ground to complain when another individual decides to do the same, but with another area?
If ALPA is that concerned with the contract, take it out of the pilots hands. Put it in writing that a pilot has to comply with every section of the contact, no matter what.
04-06-2015 | 06:21 AM
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No way would I ride the jumpseat during a deadhead.
You're on duty with the company in an aircraft type you're qualified on. The crew busts an altitude and causes a loss of separation. The FAA wants to interview everyone involved. You start getting asked things like "why weren't you wearing a headset as a required crewmember?" "Did you see the altitude they set in the preselect?" "Did you tell the captain that he shouldn't have been using his laptop that the FO admitted he was doing?" "Why did you take the jumpseat and accept additional crewmember responsibility when you've already flown over 8 hours that day?"
Or... you could just be getting paid to be a passenger in a seat that was booked for you and contractually owed to you.
You're on duty with the company in an aircraft type you're qualified on. The crew busts an altitude and causes a loss of separation. The FAA wants to interview everyone involved. You start getting asked things like "why weren't you wearing a headset as a required crewmember?" "Did you see the altitude they set in the preselect?" "Did you tell the captain that he shouldn't have been using his laptop that the FO admitted he was doing?" "Why did you take the jumpseat and accept additional crewmember responsibility when you've already flown over 8 hours that day?"
Or... you could just be getting paid to be a passenger in a seat that was booked for you and contractually owed to you.
04-06-2015 | 06:28 AM
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No way would I ride the jumpseat during a deadhead.
You're on duty with the company in an aircraft type you're qualified on. The crew busts an altitude and causes a loss of separation. The FAA wants to interview everyone involved. You start getting asked things like "why weren't you wearing a headset as a required crewmember?" "Did you see the altitude they set in the preselect?" "Did you tell the captain that he shouldn't have been using his laptop that the FO admitted he was doing?" "Why did you take the jumpseat and accept additional crewmember responsibility when you've already flown over 8 hours that day?"
Or... you could just be getting paid to be a passenger in a seat that was booked for you and contractually owed to you.
You're on duty with the company in an aircraft type you're qualified on. The crew busts an altitude and causes a loss of separation. The FAA wants to interview everyone involved. You start getting asked things like "why weren't you wearing a headset as a required crewmember?" "Did you see the altitude they set in the preselect?" "Did you tell the captain that he shouldn't have been using his laptop that the FO admitted he was doing?" "Why did you take the jumpseat and accept additional crewmember responsibility when you've already flown over 8 hours that day?"
Or... you could just be getting paid to be a passenger in a seat that was booked for you and contractually owed to you.
04-06-2015 | 06:57 AM
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04-06-2015 | 07:07 AM
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04-06-2015 | 07:53 AM
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I will use the jumpseat when I see fit. Nothing in the contract says we can't. I don't have a problem with how individuals choose to enforce the contract. The contract is there to protect you, ie the company cannot force you to ride the jumpseat on a DH leg, but it does not say I can't ride the jumpseat. Same with the duty day. The company cannot force me beyond a certain point, but within the FARs, if I choose to go beyond the contractual duty day so I can get home vs being stuck on a layover, then that's what I will do.
If ALPA is that concerned with the contract, take it out of the pilots hands. Put it in writing that a pilot has to comply with every section of the contact, no matter what.
If ALPA is that concerned with the contract, take it out of the pilots hands. Put it in writing that a pilot has to comply with every section of the contact, no matter what.
04-06-2015 | 08:17 AM
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No way would I ride the jumpseat during a deadhead.
You're on duty with the company in an aircraft type you're qualified on. The crew busts an altitude and causes a loss of separation. The FAA wants to interview everyone involved. You start getting asked things like "why weren't you wearing a headset as a required crewmember?" "Did you see the altitude they set in the preselect?" "Did you tell the captain that he shouldn't have been using his laptop that the FO admitted he was doing?" "Why did you take the jumpseat and accept additional crewmember responsibility when you've already flown over 8 hours that day?"
Or... you could just be getting paid to be a passenger in a seat that was booked for you and contractually owed to you.
You're on duty with the company in an aircraft type you're qualified on. The crew busts an altitude and causes a loss of separation. The FAA wants to interview everyone involved. You start getting asked things like "why weren't you wearing a headset as a required crewmember?" "Did you see the altitude they set in the preselect?" "Did you tell the captain that he shouldn't have been using his laptop that the FO admitted he was doing?" "Why did you take the jumpseat and accept additional crewmember responsibility when you've already flown over 8 hours that day?"
Or... you could just be getting paid to be a passenger in a seat that was booked for you and contractually owed to you.
04-06-2015 | 08:28 AM
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When I am captain, I will flate out tell a deadheader that he needs to take his assigned deadhead seat as the jumpseat is not an option. Unfortunately, I am not a captain. I have been left behind and it ****es me off. Some of you guys are ignorant. Not sure why everyone is so anxious to give up a deadhead seat to sit in the jumpseat especially when we can usually get econ comfort with a 24 hour checkin.
Good luck on denying the jumpseat as a Captain. That will not work out like you imagine it.
04-06-2015 | 08:28 AM
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When I am captain, I will flate out tell a deadheader that he needs to take his assigned deadhead seat as the jumpseat is not an option. Unfortunately, I am not a captain. I have been left behind and it ****es me off. Some of you guys are ignorant. Not sure why everyone is so anxious to give up a deadhead seat to sit in the jumpseat especially when we can usually get econ comfort with a 24 hour checkin.
I bet you will be a real prince to fly with once you are the captain.
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