Any "Latest & Greatest" about Delta?
11-17-2009, 10:19 AM
veut gagner à la loterie
Joined APC: Apr 2008
Position: Light Chop
Posts: 23,286
A possible need to hire that doesn't come to fruition is better than a possible need to furlough whether one happens or not. I'm sure the company would give anything to run a mock post soc ae just for planning purposes.
11-17-2009, 10:20 AM
Banned
Joined APC: Oct 2009
Position: Snowshoe shopping
Posts: 101
Originally Posted by Nosmo King
My guess is it will take this xmas season and about a year after the next AE before they throw in the towel and give us the DAL-N policy. It will take that many cancelled flights over xmas and that many NEW commuters calling in sick from the DAL-S side before Dickson (and higher) will listen.
IMHO, we use up tons of our negotiating capital for the non-unionized FAs with every single "perk" we negotiate. The company has to factor in the cost of giving the FAs everything we negotiate, to keep the stews happy and non-unionized.
No way the company can afford give the FAs that call in honest policy, so we won't get either.
Once the FAs start negotiating for themselves, hopefully it will open up more room for us to negotiate improvements since we will no longer be effectively negotiating for us AND the FAs.
I think I'll donate to the FA union drive.
11-17-2009, 10:27 AM
Happy to be here
Joined APC: Jun 2006
Position: A-320A
Posts: 18,563
Originally Posted by Spacemann Splif
I don't think we'll get the N policy unless the FAs vote in a union.
IMHO, we use up tons of our negotiating capital for the non-unionized FAs with every single "perk" we negotiate. The company has to factor in the cost of giving the FAs everything we negotiate, to keep the stews happy and non-unionized.
No way the company can afford give the FAs that call in honest policy, so we won't get either.
Once the FAs start negotiating for themselves, hopefully it will open up more room for us to negotiate improvements since we will no longer be effectively negotiating for us AND the FAs.
I think I'll donate to the FA union drive.
IMHO, we use up tons of our negotiating capital for the non-unionized FAs with every single "perk" we negotiate. The company has to factor in the cost of giving the FAs everything we negotiate, to keep the stews happy and non-unionized.
No way the company can afford give the FAs that call in honest policy, so we won't get either.
Once the FAs start negotiating for themselves, hopefully it will open up more room for us to negotiate improvements since we will no longer be effectively negotiating for us AND the FAs.
I think I'll donate to the FA union drive.
I agree that if the FA's were unionized it would be easier for us to get it. I hate the fact that we negotiate all of their added perks. If they knew that they would never want AFA in!
11-17-2009, 10:27 AM
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Oct 2006
Position: Dismayed
Posts: 1,598
Originally Posted by johnso29
Anybody know if my recall rights to the 320 are domicile specific? I was displaced from DTW 320B, so if there are openings in MSP 320B, but NOT DTW 320B, would my recall rights still give me first crack?
12. A pilot who holds an MD will, without regard to the standing bids of senior pilots, be
reinstated to the category from which he was displaced if:
a. a vacancy is posted in such category and the earliest conversion date stated in the posting is within the 180 day period following the conversion date of his MD,
b. his standing bid indicates a request for such reinstatement, and
c. such vacancy has not been filled by reinstatement of a pilot senior to him who was also awarded an MD from such category
“Category” means the combination of a pilot’s position and base. (22-A7)
So you only have rights to DTW320B.
11-17-2009, 10:29 AM
Happy to be here
Joined APC: Jun 2006
Position: A-320A
Posts: 18,563
Forgot.
This AE is going to be very telling in terms of our needed staffing. They need to know were to put new meat. Now if they are adding positions and not taking away that is great. What will be real telling is the Foretasted Staffing levels published post AE and where the holes are once the awards are posted. That will give us a true idea if they have decided to pull the trigger on hiring. It is easier to hire than down bid pilots. It is also easier not to hire than to hire a few 100 and then shudder the doors again.
This AE is going to be very telling in terms of our needed staffing. They need to know were to put new meat. Now if they are adding positions and not taking away that is great. What will be real telling is the Foretasted Staffing levels published post AE and where the holes are once the awards are posted. That will give us a true idea if they have decided to pull the trigger on hiring. It is easier to hire than down bid pilots. It is also easier not to hire than to hire a few 100 and then shudder the doors again.
11-17-2009, 11:06 AM
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Feb 2009
Position: 320B
Posts: 781
Originally Posted by forgot to bid
I'm sure the company would give anything to run a mock post soc ae just for planning purposes.
11-17-2009, 11:07 AM
Line Holder
Joined APC: Mar 2008
Position: 744B
Posts: 51
Originally Posted by Spacemann Splif
I don't think we'll get the N policy unless the FAs vote in a union.
IMHO, we use up tons of our negotiating capital for the non-unionized FAs with every single "perk" we negotiate. The company has to factor in the cost of giving the FAs everything we negotiate, to keep the stews happy and non-unionized.
No way the company can afford give the FAs that call in honest policy, so we won't get either.
Once the FAs start negotiating for themselves, hopefully it will open up more room for us to negotiate improvements since we will no longer be effectively negotiating for us AND the FAs.
I think I'll donate to the FA union drive.
IMHO, we use up tons of our negotiating capital for the non-unionized FAs with every single "perk" we negotiate. The company has to factor in the cost of giving the FAs everything we negotiate, to keep the stews happy and non-unionized.
No way the company can afford give the FAs that call in honest policy, so we won't get either.
Once the FAs start negotiating for themselves, hopefully it will open up more room for us to negotiate improvements since we will no longer be effectively negotiating for us AND the FAs.
I think I'll donate to the FA union drive.
Do the north F/As have a me too clause in their contract?
11-17-2009, 11:25 AM
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Mar 2007
Position: 88B - Loud Pipes Save Lives
Posts: 1,597
ACL, is that the pic showing in detail how the Geico lizard got his current gig? I guess there's a price to pay to rise to the top.
11-17-2009, 11:32 AM
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Jan 2008
Position: A330
Posts: 216
11-17-2009, 11:50 AM
Banned
Joined APC: Oct 2009
Position: Snowshoe shopping
Posts: 101
disregard all.
Last edited by Spacemann Splif; 11-17-2009 at 12:23 PM.
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
