Originally Posted by JABDIP

Well I think that you need to take work rules and pay rates into consideration at the same time. NWA work rules and pay rates gave me a $1,000 higher gross pay check for the first 2 years under the Delta work rules and higher pay rates. I had to work or be away from home 34 more days the first year and 37 more days the second year to make the same pay check. My hours were exactly the same or within 10 - 20 hours per year. Work rules can be huge in terms of increasing pay. What would my paycheck have been had I worked 34 more days at NWA??? Plus we got time and a half for anything over 80 hours. Not saying that we had a better contract at all, just that we had a few good work rules that improved quality of life. In general, it seems that most everyone focuses on pay rates here, but I'm here to tell you that for me personally time away from home ranks right up there with pay rates. My slogan: MAX pay for MIN time away. However, there have been a lot of changes to deal with the main one being the god awful FAR 117. What a mess that is. It seems to me a few good work rules would increase the check and may not be so hard for the company to swallow. Who knows??

Originally Posted by OldFlyGuy

BTW, you are dead right that work rules can kill a contract. My AMR contacts think their new work rules are terrible. OFG

Originally Posted by RockyBoy

I was done with this topic then on the top of my daily news list pops up this article.

http://finance.yahoo.com/news/heres-...110000302.html

Weird. Seems this one is about what actual doctors that I know are making rather than sailings data that he got from the same site everyone gets global warming data.

Originally Posted by TeddyKGB

And here is an idea of how much doctors pay for malpractice insurance.

"Malpractice Premium Spending
Your physician spends 10 cents on malpractice insurance from every dollar you pay for health care, according to Diana Furchtgott-Roth, a senior fellow at the Manhattan Institute. Furchgott-Roth notes that premiums vary from $20,000 annually in low-cost states to $200,000 annually in high-cost states. According to a survey published November 2011 in "Modern Medicine," family and general practitioners paid premiums of $12,100, and pediatricians' premiums averaged $11,800. OB-GYNs paid an average of $46,400, and plastic surgeons reported median premiums averaging $30,000."

Originally Posted by MikeF16

edit: the real injustice between pilots and doctors: I can't wear my uniform into a bar the way doctors wear their scrubs to scream "I MAKE LOTS OF MONEY, CHICS OUT OF MY LEAGUE COME TALK TO ME NOW"

Originally Posted by Mesabah

Fidelity released its 410K/IRA stats this week, only 0.6% of accounts have over $1 million dollars. The average person retires with $55,000 in their account. So much for the pension alternative....

Originally Posted by buzzpat

Sure you can! You've got a flight suit right? Throw it on.

Chicks dig the heavy driver though, so never mind.

Originally Posted by buzzpat

I've had Richard a few times. Anybody else ever have Juan? "Juan in the rear?"

Originally Posted by F15Cricket

Uh, Buzz, I think by your own admission, you mean dudes dig the heavy driver...