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Old 06-07-2016 | 11:48 AM
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Can anyone briefly explain the difference in the "Delta Pilots Savings Plan" and the "Delta Pilots Defined Contribution Plan"?


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The latter doesn't exist anymore or at least isn't for new hires. The former is the 15% contribution the company gives you regardless of your personal 401k election.
Old 06-07-2016 | 02:10 PM
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Originally Posted by satchip
June schedule had 3 LCA trips. Looks like I'll be 0 for 3 for OE drops. Sometimes you're the windshield, sometimes you're the bug....
Just think how standardized you'll be by the end of the month!
Old 06-07-2016 | 02:22 PM
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Originally Posted by BUSTED
Can anyone briefly explain the difference in the "Delta Pilots Savings Plan" and the "Delta Pilots Defined Contribution Plan"?


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The DPDCP was what was created when the pension was cancelled. The DPSP was a 401K that existed for all employees as well with Fidelity.

A couple of years ago, they decided (ALPA and the Company) to just merge the DPDCP into the DPSP and make the contributions to the DPSP instead.

At that time you could have rolled your DPDCP balance into the DPSP, taken it out with applicable tax penalties, or rolled it into your own IRA.

So as posted above, for all newbe's it's all just the DPSP.
Old 06-07-2016 | 02:34 PM
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Originally Posted by full of luv
The DPDCP was what was created when the pension was cancelled. The DPSP was a 401K that existed for all employees as well with Fidelity.

A couple of years ago, they decided (ALPA and the Company) to just merge the DPDCP into the DPSP and make the contributions to the DPSP instead.

At that time you could have rolled your DPDCP balance into the DPSP, taken it out with applicable tax penalties, or rolled it into your own IRA.

So as posted above, for all newbe's it's all just the DPSP.
Thanks for a thorough answer...much appreciated.
Old 06-07-2016 | 03:22 PM
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Originally Posted by satchip
June schedule had 3 LCA trips. Looks like I'll be 0 for 3 for OE drops. Sometimes you're the windshield, sometimes you're the bug....
grievance?
Old 06-07-2016 | 03:44 PM
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Originally Posted by satchip
June schedule had 3 LCA trips. Looks like I'll be 0 for 3 for OE drops. Sometimes you're the windshield, sometimes you're the bug....
2% just 2%

It reminds me of Will Farrell in The Land of the lost "his brain is the size of a walnut, a walnut"
Old 06-07-2016 | 04:28 PM
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Originally Posted by nwaf16dude
The 18k is your personal pre-tax contribution limit. It counts against the 415 max of 53000. So if you contribute 18, the company deferred tax max DC contribution is 35000. If 15% of your income exceeds that amount, you get the amount over 35000 as normal taxable income. If you are over 50, or turning 50 this year, you can put in an additional 6000 in pre-tax catch-up contributions that does not count against the 53000.
Actually, the $6000 DOES COUNT against the limit - the $53000 is an absolute limit. If you contribute your full $24K to the 401K then the DC plan will go in until reaching your limit of $53K and then any extra money will start getting paid out to you as salary - reread the 401K rules.
Old 06-07-2016 | 04:33 PM
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Originally Posted by Gunfighter
Outstanding advice. I'd also suggest reviewing an after-tax (Roth) contribution as an option to the 18K pre-tax. Roth accounts give you more estate planning options, tax free growth and the option to pull from a retirement account that won't increase your taxable income like pulling from a pre-tax retirement account does.

Outside of your Delta plan, if you do not have a traditional IRA, look into a back door Roth IRA. If you have a traditional IRA already, the backdoor Roth gets more complicated.
A Roth usually only makes sense if you're going to be in a higher tax bracket at Retirement and most Delta pilots earn over the limit to even contribute to a Roth and a Roth 401K (which we have access to at Delta) once again makes sense only if you have so much money saved that you are using it for estate planning - even with that you are better off converting to a Roth IRA after retirement than putting taxable (probably already taxed at 33% or higher) income into a Roth 401K.
Old 06-07-2016 | 04:34 PM
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Originally Posted by DAL73n
Actually, the $6000 DOES COUNT against the limit - the $53000 is an absolute limit. If you contribute your full $24K to the 401K then the DC plan will go in until reaching your limit of $53K and then any extra money will start getting paid out to you as salary - reread the 401K rules.
Hes talking about the over 50 catch up contribution which is above and in addition to the 415c limit.
Old 06-08-2016 | 04:02 PM
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Question about YS while on reserve. There are trips in open time that start with zeros, i.e. 0111, etc. Am I able to put in a YS for those? If yes, are they ever awarded outside of 24 hours before the trip?
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