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Xray678 02-23-2019 06:11 AM


Originally Posted by Han Solo (Post 2768934)
I don't see too many captains WSing bid package garbage, but instead are grabbing the broken trips after CS chops them up. Sure, there are a few who will WS or OOBWS a standard bid package trip out of open time and fly to FAR maximums, but those are the minority.

You hit on a good point. Crew resources is building horrible trips in an effort to reduce credit time. I wonder if they go back post month and do an accounting of how much credit they generated when trips get broken up because no one will pick them up, or when people sick out of a trip they don’t want to fly.

Gunfighter 02-23-2019 06:34 AM


Originally Posted by ChecklistMonkey (Post 2768779)
80 hours? Whew. That's a lot..

80 hours doesn't always look the same. There are substantial differences between categories and even within categories depending on the season.

After crediting 80 hours per month for two months (RES with 7 days vacation), my wife asked if I missed flying. All I did was 2-3 short calls per month and no trips. I did miss flying, so I flew 80 hours the next month. 12 days was alot of work. ;) Summer will look different, but 80 hours isn't equal in all categories.

TED74 02-23-2019 06:58 AM


Originally Posted by Han Solo (Post 2768937)
Thanks! I'm not sure if my eyes or my memory is worse. I've checked that thing a dozen times before and for some reason just couldn't find it this morning.

EDIT: is there a FDP calculator somewhere as well? I'm on SC today and for grins I ran a 1 day trip that was covered by another pilot against my line in the rules auditor and I got a 60/168 FDP violation that I'd like to investigate.

At the start of every FDP for the trip (not just sign in, but each day's report), look back 7 days. If you don't have a 30+ hour period of rest, that you knew the beginning and end of before it started, you aren't legal for the trip.

Han Solo 02-23-2019 08:55 AM


Originally Posted by TED74 (Post 2768967)
At the start of every FDP for the trip (not just sign in, but each day's report), look back 7 days. If you don't have a 30+ hour period of rest, that you knew the beginning and end of before it started, you aren't legal for the trip.

Not 30/168 rest, 60/168 FDP.

TED74 02-23-2019 10:12 AM


Originally Posted by Han Solo (Post 2769022)
Not 30/168 rest, 60/168 FDP.

Ah, my bad. So, 60 cumulative hour limit in a rolling 168-hr window. Not sure there's a calculator for that other than just looking at your trips for such conflict (or using the rules auditor)

... unless you mean the 60 degrees longitude rule?

If a flightcrew member travels more than 60 degrees longitude in a FDP or series of FDPs and is away from home base for 168 consecutive hours, the crewmember must be given 56 consecutive hours of rest upon return to home base that must encompass 3 physiological nights based on local time. A physiological night’s rest means 10 hours of rest that encompasses the hours of
0500 and 0700 at the flightcrew member’s home base, unless the individual has acclimated to a different theater.

FL370esq 02-23-2019 10:33 AM


Originally Posted by Han Solo (Post 2769022)
Not 30/168 rest, 60/168 FDP.

iCrew --> (top menu bar) Personnel --> Qualifications --> Block Hours Flown. At the bottom of that you will see your accumulated FDP time for 60/168. Gives you a general idea of where you sit.

Han Solo 02-23-2019 11:56 AM


Originally Posted by FL370esq (Post 2769071)
iCrew --> (top menu bar) Personnel --> Qualifications --> Block Hours Flown. At the bottom of that you will see your accumulated FDP time for 60/168. Gives you a general idea of where you sit.

Thanks again, exactly what I was looking for.

tennisguru 02-24-2019 06:35 PM

What is a Q trip in open time? I see one I'd like to take but I don't see any way to get it on my schedule.

gloopy 02-24-2019 06:36 PM


Originally Posted by tennisguru (Post 2769867)
What is a Q trip in open time? I see one I'd like to take but I don't see any way to get it on my schedule.

Someone owns it and is trying to get rid of it.

tennisguru 02-24-2019 06:39 PM


Originally Posted by gloopy (Post 2769868)
Someone owns it and is trying to get rid of it.

So if I want to swap a trip on my schedule for that Q trip, do I just put it in the swap with open time? Would it go through that way? My trip is the same length but falls on different days.


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